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Feeders and Trolls

Lyless··3 votes·432 views

Just a message for new players. When the "expert players" tell you that the game teams is balanced between feeders from one team to the next, that's a flat out lie! They don't play in Bronze 3, 4 or 5, so they wouldn't know. They are liars and they are just saying this knowing they are lies. Things have gotten much worse at these levels of play. It's just flat out wrong. And don't ask for help either, they won't help you. Even though half of them received help, they don't want you to get better at this game. They find humor you wanting to be better! All they care about is talking down to you and keeping the current system in place so they are over you. Even though most of them ARE NOT great players at all, and I am talking about those in Silver and Gold and beyond. Like I said they had help, they have teams to help them with no trolls or feeders that the rest of do have.

Just be aware to not ask for help because just like I was told, when I started this game. You are on your own!

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Very Hard Engage2 votes

we wouldn't know from experience, because we quickly rose up.

however math says it does happen. (assuming its just 1 or 2 players, it does balance out over a prolonged experience) or if you just so happen to stay down there long enough, and not realize your mistakes, you learn that everyone is so low quality that there simply are no "normal" players anymore, they're all "feeders and trolls"

ever watch doublelift smurf in bronze?

Lyless2 votes

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we wouldn't know from experience, because we quickly rose up.

however math says it does happen. (assuming its just 1 or 2 players, it does balance out over a prolonged experience) or if you just so happen to stay down there long enough, and not realize your mistakes, you learn that everyone is so low quality that there simply are no "normal" players anymore, they're all "feeders and trolls"

ever watch doublelift smurf in bronze?

Of course you rose up quickly you had help and their were less feeders when you did. You played with those who actually tried to win the game.

The math has changed, and this isn't about my mistakes. It's about the horrible teams I have. AFKs and feeders which happens 50% of the time to me. Last game, I had to be mid against Akali because the mid decided to just stay bot for no reason. But somehow that's my mistake?!?!?! Get real. You guys are so weak with that crap. My teams are worse almost every time. They don't work together or they feed. So, since you cannot be honest and stop with these pack of lies you just told. I see carries all the time on the other team because they actually work together, they push mid at the same time. What a novel concept! But you don't want to see that! it's far eaiser to blame me or just make up stuff like the majority of posters here!

Very Hard Engage2 votes

invite a friend, 1 less "troll or feeder" to worry about, then just make sure you get ahead in your lane, dont break even, crush him, and then with your lead you make a difference roam, take objectives, you be the one to follow your team mates around and punish the enemy team for not knowing where you are.

a lot of it comes down to what champion you play, if you play someone like sivir/maokai, who excell when you're all together and take advantage of their engage mechanics, vs you go in alone, when you could've picked someone like vayne or yi who can win 1v1's snowball and carry, its a lot more beneficial when you make the difference vs trying to be a team player.

i played ahri, i rose because i won lane always, got ahead, went bot for double kills and i was monumental in winning 2 lanes.

Lyless1 votes

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invite a friend, 1 less "troll or feeder" to worry about, then just make sure you get ahead in your lane, dont break even, crush him, and then with your lead you make a difference roam, take objectives, you be the one to follow your team mates around and punish the enemy team for not knowing where you are.

a lot of it comes down to what champion you play, if you play someone like sivir/maokai, who excell when you're all together and take advantage of their engage mechanics, vs you go in alone, when you could've picked someone like vayne or yi who can win 1v1's snowball and carry, its a lot more beneficial when you make the difference vs trying to be a team player.

i played ahri, i rose because i won lane always, got ahead, went bot for double kills and i was monumental in winning 2 lanes.

Shows what you know I am jg main. I hold up my end. I am not playing as Ahri or Sivir or Maokai! Plz!

Very Hard Engage2 votes

then play fizz/yi/vi/khazix/reksai/rengar, champions who have a major presence and can playmake and pick.

wrong choices include "darius" "malphite" maokai, sejuani, udyr, zac, xin etc etc team play champions who need others to help damage or have glaring mechanical issues.

also the biggest issue, is players dont gank early enough, like level 2~5, people spend that precious game changing moment, farming and dont look at the lanes at all, they dont see enemy champions HP, you wont flash for the engage, you wont go to the enemy laners that are pushing against your turrets.... just general things which give snowball room, and you ignore it for farm or trying to do something wrong, or you spend too much time clearing the jungle and just back at the wrong times.

and dont start your jungle path with wolves or raptors unless you are going gromp or golems then to gank/invade, because there you waste so much time.

always start at the edge and go to the other edge of the jungle.

edit - you have 150 games on nocturne and a 35% win/loss with him. WWWWWHHHHHYYYYYYY. i looked at your builds and i see they're just horrible.

(boots as you need them or deem appropriate)

go devourer -> bork -> hydra -> black cleaver -> youmu -> filler based on enemy team if you want to do damages. (ninja tabi or boots of lucidity for the greedy ultimates)

go warrior -> randuins -> banshees veil/frozen heart (choose based on their major damage type, then finish with the other -> warmogs (merc treds)

Lyless1 votes

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then play fizz/yi/vi/khazix/reksai/rengar, champions who have a major presence and can playmake and pick.

wrong choices include "darius" "malphite" maokai, sejuani, udyr, zac, xin etc etc team play champions who need others to help damage or have glaring mechanical issues.

also the biggest issue, is players dont gank early enough, like level 2~5, people spend that precious game changing moment, farming and dont look at the lanes at all, they dont see enemy champions HP, you wont flash for the engage, you wont go to the enemy laners that are pushing against your turrets.... just general things which give snowball room, and you ignore it for farm or trying to do something wrong, or you spend too much time clearing the jungle and just back at the wrong times.

and dont start your jungle path with wolves or raptors unless you are going gromp or golems then to gank/invade, because there you waste so much time.

always start at the edge and go to the other edge of the jungle.

I don't like Fizz, Yi or Vi! Rengar is cheap and reksai flat out sucks! Don't tell me who to use. WHO do you think your are? And I don't use those other bums. I gank plenty. I know how to it's the other who don't.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

you can say that all you want, but i suggest you watch nightblue3, he streams all the time, hes a jungler, he teaches players how to jungle, and if you just do what he does, i guarantee you'll improve and you'll see what you're doing wrong.

i cant tell you without seeing you play, but i can assure you, if you're in bronze 5 you're there for a multitude of reasons which you could improve upon.

just go to lolking.com or twitchtv and see league of legends. NB3 is on a ton every day.

Lyless1 votes

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you can say that all you want, but i suggest you watch nightblue3, he streams all the time, hes a jungler, he teaches players how to jungle, and if you just do what he does, i guarantee you'll improve and you'll see what you're doing wrong.

i cant tell you without seeing you play, but i can assure you, if you're in bronze 5 you're there for a multitude of reasons which you could improve upon.

just go to lolking.com or twitchtv and see league of legends. NB3 is on a ton every day.

And you can say this bullcrap all you want. It's a pack of lies. And I am not watching stream. I am not doing anything wrong. But I am one player amongst 5. I am a hands on person, streams don't help me and are a waste of time.

That's right you haven't see me play, so you don't know! You are just guessing. I am not watching some bullcrap stream of someone in Gold or Platium beating up on Bronze players. Quit guessing and get a clue.

Very Hard Engage2 votes

or you know, you could do whatever you want, whenever, do anything. and then again, you've earned yourself a 35% win rate by doing it.

or you could restart your counter, and do what i tell you to, and see if that win rate raises even just a little bit....

or you could continue doing what you're doing, you're choice.

i wont force you to play a certain way, but just realize, in ranked is all about getting the win, and to do that you need to blow up their nexus, and if you want to blow up their nexus you need to take an inhibitor/3 turrets in some lane,

and if you dont want to do even just that, i cant help you at all.

its been proven that there are right times to push a lane/gank/group up, but if you do those things at the wrong time, it actually hurts your whole team and puts you at a disadvantage.

so go ahead, keep doing what you're doing, make zero changes to yourself and surley you'll hit challenger in a week because you're awesome, show me how its done.

(or you could try something new)

Lyless1 votes

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or you know, you could do whatever you want, whenever, do anything. and then again, you've earned yourself a 35% win rate by doing it.

or you could restart your counter, and do what i tell you to, and see if that win rate raises even just a little bit....

or you could continue doing what you're doing, you're choice.

i wont force you to play a certain way, but just realize, in ranked is all about getting the win, and to do that you need to blow up their nexus, and if you want to blow up their nexus you need to take an inhibitor/3 turrets in some lane,

and if you dont want to do even just that, i cant help you at all.

its been proven that there are right times to push a lane/gank/group up, but if you do those things at the wrong time, it actually hurts your whole team and puts you at a disadvantage.

so go ahead, keep doing what you're doing, make zero changes to yourself and surley you'll hit challenger in a week because you're awesome, show me how its done.

(or you could try something new)

I know how to play I am the only one focusing on going for turrets and nexus. Don't speak down to me. I am being pulled down by my team. That's the reason for a 35% win rate, because this is a team game. But you are speaking out both sides of your mouth.

Like I said, you had helpo to get where you were. I have to do everything on my own, I don't have a good team, I have feeders and afks every 1 out 3 matches all stuff you don't deal with.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

even if you're lumped together with baddies, if you're as good as you say you are you can put them all on your back with your mechanics and skill dodging mindblowing side steps and proceed to land all of your skill shots, deal all of your damage and win the fight.

if you aren't as good as you say you are..........

"THE LAST BIT OF ADVICE IM GIVING YOU, IS TO EXPLAIN EVERY ONE OF YOUR DEATHS, WHY DID YOU DO IT, WHY DID YOU GO IN, WHAT DID YOU HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH, DID YOU STAND A REASONABLE CHANCE OF DOING IT WHAT COULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY TO NOT DIE, WHY DID HE LIVE, WHY DID WE LOSE!!!!"

/im gone. help yourself out. see if you can do it.

Lyless1 votes

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even if you're lumped together with baddies, if you're as good as you say you are you can put them all on your back with your mechanics and skill dodging mindblowing side steps and proceed to land all of your skill shots, deal all of your damage and win the fight.

if you aren't as good as you say you are..........

"THE LAST BIT OF ADVICE IM GIVING YOU, IS TO EXPLAIN EVERY ONE OF YOUR DEATHS, WHY DID YOU DO IT, WHY DID YOU GO IN, WHAT DID YOU HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH, DID YOU STAND A REASONABLE CHANCE OF DOING IT WHAT COULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY TO NOT DIE, WHY DID HE LIVE, WHY DID WE LOSE!!!!"

/im gone. help yourself out. see if you can do it.

Whatever. You cannot carry people who won't follow. I could kill everyone and if they don't capitalize on it, it doesn't matter and that has happened before.

You have nothing for me. Get lost!

HexaDecimel1 votes

There is a difference between knowing how to play and making the right decisions. Sometimes sticking with your team even when you don't agree with the calls they are making is better then trying to play the objective game by yourself.

I have been in a match where my team never seemed to go for turrets. And after getting caught out several times trying to solo push I just grouped with the team and focused on keeping them alive. Even though we were losing and others were feeding we ended up winning a late teamfight and pushing mid to finally win the game.

You don't have to play the right way to win a game. And if people are unwilling to work with you, at least make sure you work with them.

HexaDecimel1 votes

I have to agree with Lyless here, I don't think Streams, Walkthroughs, Player Guides, or simply good advice will help him improve XD.

All joking aside, watching other people play a position can be very useful. Not only to learn tricks and builds with certain champions, or to figure out the best jungle clear paths and strategies, but also to gain greater knowledge about the game, and how to win matches that appear hopeless. And if you are in Bronze, then wouldn't learning how to beat up on other Bronze players from a Gold or Platinum be the best option?

You can't control who your teammates are or how they play, you can only control yourself. No player is perfect, everyone makes mistakes. So make sure you are playing perfectly without making a single mistake before you criticize other players. If you really want to get out of Bronze then take the time to learn how to win, take advice, work with your team, and never stop improving.

Lyless1 votes

to even suggest that everyone learns the same way is absurd.

Lyless1 votes

I mean, this crap is stupid.

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