2 top, 1 mid, 2 bot no jungler or supp with ruby eyesight Summoners rift question

Goldenangel3341·12/24/2014, 8:26:55 PM·2 votes·1,161 views

Is having a team with no Jungler stupid or not. If it is or not, please tell me why.

I didn't care for it, later ingame we surrendered.

In ranked is it that rare to see?

Is there more ways to set up Summoners rift or not?

thanks for answering.

7 Comments

MrSlowDie12/24/2014, 9:26:28 PM2 votes

if both play well, then one with jungle will most likely win, because they have gold, exp, and ganking advantage. However, aside from yolo-Q, the metagaming more flexible than 1-1-2+1

SeCKS Egai12/24/2014, 10:24:01 PM2 votes

2-1-2 is basically what you do till you're high enough for there to be a consistent jungler. Low levels people are often not ready to either 2v1 or jungle hence why its common leveling up.

In ranked you're going to see at least one jungler unless there was an afk. Sometimes you may even see two.

Sire Hippington12/24/2014, 9:18:56 PM1 votes

It's bad cause you spread the gold and exp from top on two people while leaving all the gold and xp in tha jungle unused, and you also loose out objective and buff controll + the constant threat of ganks on enemy laners. If one of your other lanes does bad, you need to comit much more to prevent the enemy from snowballing, as roaming from top to mid or even bot takes far more time than ganking from thr jungle.

So unless your other lanes play save enough to not get snowballed upon by jungleganks while your duotop denies the enemy single top havily, it will fail. Your enemys will just outfarm and out level you over time, and if they use the jungleganks smart they will also be able to take objektives more easily.

There is a core that needs to be fullfilt for your team:(1-1-1-1+1) atleast one member on every lane(jungle counts as lane for this) if there are two members in one lane, one needs to be a dedicated support, which means no cs, while the other is the 'carry' that takes the farm. The reason for that is that focused gold is stronger than spreatout gold. your team needs vision no matter where it comes from, but since a support usually gains the least gold and thus won't become much of a threat stats wise, it doesn't make that much of a difference if he picks up a sightstone instead of a item that gives more combat stats. therefor u usually pick a champion that has high impact even without much stats from items. This also counts somewhat for certain junglers.

on a sidenote, it is usually wise to have the duolane not top, since dragon is the biggest early objektive, and it's on the bottomside, so you want more people cose to it. Sometimes you see a duolane top, but usually that lane takes the tower fast or freezes the lane while zoneing out the enemy till ~lvl 6 and than swaps with bot, cause by that time Dragon starts to become relevant so you want the two guys bot.

SexyTaylorSwift12/24/2014, 8:29:19 PM1 votes

It is not smart. For one, all the top player has to do is turret farm so they out farm both your top laners and get a level advantage, while making the enemy jungler free to gank lanes. Like, if you have 2 top, the enemy doesn't have to worry about ganks lol.

AccountaBilabudy12/24/2014, 9:33:49 PM1 votes

it works with the right champions. the duo top can push the wave to tower and invade the enemy jungle, either killing their jungler or taking the jungle away. you need to be coordinated though, cant just both sit top alternating farm.

ïîï12/24/2014, 9:56:56 PM1 votes

With the new jung many champions now struggle and dont rank up as fast. That being said some champions Nunu can still jung ultra fast. I say that 2 top is a okay if you and the other person work together like adc and support. if you both try to farm you will never push effectively. along with this your team will be ganked and you will not be giving ganks to your team. this means your team needs to be on board and ward effectively.

TeemoJenkins12/24/2014, 8:31:01 PM1 votes

Depends on how good you roam. If you 2 1 2 and no one roams, yes you will probably lose. But if your 2nd top or one of the bot roam mid for ganks you can snowball hard. Depends on team comp and player ability. It's not traditional but can work.