I main Zac... this rework seems to have completely made him useless in terms of damage :/ Also i think he needs something more for his ultimate e.g. more damage or longer carry jump range. Maybe even after 2-3seconds his Q pulls the target back towards him SLIGHTLY if he cant find a second target. (His Q is useless if only finds 1 target)
What do you guys think about the rework?
FurriesAreHot3 votesThe ability to move enemies over a large distance is insanely strong.
flyingbaklava3 votesYeah, but the current implementation makes doing that consistently to one target very difficult, let alone a group of them. 1 second of channeling time is a lot of time for people to use mobility or flash to escape. Live ultimate is much stronger because it is consistently useful as you can guarantee a good ultimate if you land your elastic slingshot.
DarkSoulGod3 votesLOL ive played over 5000 games as Zac he is my champ and i will never play him agian. im really hurt about it. Zac was a great tank now he is just another champ nerfed to the ground to die. and the comment: he isnt a 1v1 champ but he was a jungler? so all junglers 1v1 khazix lee sin gragas now he is a support wtf.?????? any champ can basically kill him its very sad to see him like this lulu wrecked me no prob i cant fight vi any more just get dunked lee sin just detroys me and kha makes me dissapear. his Q doesnt farm, he doesnt get any blobs from his R and basically just nerfed dead nerf jax nerf teemo nerf yi nerf the nerfs that count at least i had skill shots.
RIP: Zaun Amorphous Combatant = with a name like that you would think you where plahing a good champ P.S I dont think his name means anything now just spells crap. played him everyday now he is gone (tear)
whathemath2 votesThe only thing I really don't like is what you mentioned about the Q -- if you don't find another target to auto, it's useless.
Shadòw1 voteswell zac isn't meant to be a 1v1 fighter
whathemath1 votesfair enough
Oznap1 votesYou would think they would make it so he would be able to collide enemies with minions or some kind of mechanic where minions could be slammed together to do damage to champions in the center of that collision.
lFraay2 votesBeing a dynamically built jungler/laner the good thing about him previously was that you could build him tank OR ap-hp. But now i feel like he has to build tanky to be effective because he just doesn't have the mobility anymore. I think he will be easily kited as well, I don't know... i guess i am just upset they are changing him so much when his Q was the only ability that needed a rework.
PeepingPeafowl2 votesYou're not wrong, his rework is an overall nerf in comparison to live
His Q does less damage with less AP scaling and harder to achieve damage in exchange for situational CC, I don't know how much the slow has been effected either.
His W is the same far as I can tell.
His E was GUTTED, it does less damage and knocks up for .5 seconds down from one second and the only compensation to his main ability getting dumpster-ed is slightly lower charge times at like rank 3+.
His ult is harder to catch people with, no longer gives him an escape, and does wayyy less damage. Not to mention the ult does not spawn healing blobs like the old one, so you're getting no reduced cool down on W damage and no healing from his ult now.
He does way less damage with arguably less consistent CC now that his ult is terrible.
I have no idea why they are hitting him so hard when alot of people thought he was one of the better tanks and in a decent spot.
flyingbaklava2 votesHe is in a good spot now in lower ELO's (gold and below). Once you get to diamond, you really notice the weaknesses inherent in his kit as people consistently dodge/interrupt Elastic Slingshot. Zac needs to be toned down slightly in lower ELO's, but given more consistency in high ELO's to be in a good state. This change feels like a straight up nerf to a champion that already struggles to be relevent in high ELO.
rtbf2087834352 votesThey literally gutted zac. His q is really unreliable and his R is so awful. Overall they nerfed him in dmg ... Pls, what were they thinking???
LUALUA72 votesas a ZAc main i have to say they ruined to champ completely ... the r is the most useless ult in the game ... the q is ok but way worse than the old and e got nerfed ... gj idiots gonna play dota now
FiddlesOnTheRoof1 votesI think it looks absolutely amazing. I think it's the only one of the three that looks any good. Sej and Mao both look dumb to me.
rtbf2087834352 votesI think it looks absolutely amazing. I think it's the only one of the three that looks any good. Sej and Mao both look dumb to me.
? Sej is the best out of the rework. But I believe she belongs in the top lane now, more than jungle.
PPPPPPPPPPPP2701 votesHis general damage looks the same to me. W was unchanged. Q damage was moved to the auto. E damage I think is unchanged. Unsure of E.
His ultimate damage will go down due to the nature. I guess the days of killing an unprotected ADC over 7 seconds are gone now.
PeepingPeafowl3 votesE was nerfed in both damage and knock up duration, in exchange for charging like .3 seconds faster past rank 3.
Basically it was nerfed.