Shouldn't Kogmaw be the ultimate damage dealing hyper carry?

Kristari Zuboro·4/15/2015, 10:47:14 AM·2 votes·787 views

When looking at the other hyper carry ADCs, none of them are as limited as Kogmaw in terms of mobility. Vayne has invisibility AND a dash, Tristana has a jump and knock away ult. Kogmaw has one ability in terms of self peel - a slow.

So shouldn't Kogmaw's late game out scale the others?

6 Comments

Old Man Teeto4/15/2015, 10:53:15 AM4 votes

Kog'maw gets a strong mid-game (level 9+) thanks to Triforce, and his incentive to use his abilities. Kog'maw against many compositions is far superior to Vayne due to range, and turns on far sooner than a Tristana.

His 6 item late game is one of the best, but is gated by his W's uptime. Otherwise there'd be very little reason to take any other late game ADC over him. Trist's mobility/peel is paid for by her long ramp up time and weak mid-game. Vayne pays for her late game with minimal threat range and weak early game.

He also gets a very unique utility in being able to check bushes and objectives from INSANE ranges with his R late game where Vision games are life or death.

Minrog4/15/2015, 11:53:40 AM2 votes

I think his damage does outscale them.

Mobility isn't the only factor to consider in the mix though. Kog'Maw outranges Vayne quite a lot and when he's using his ability he actually outranges Tristana too. I wouldn't even call Tristana a hyper carry anymore, she's a tower damage specialist with a strong mid game and a lot of safety.

It's between Kog'Maw and Jinx really. And if you build a composition around boosting the AD carry, with 3 or 4 support buffers doing AS/AD/shields then you are doing a Juggermaw (not a Juggerjinx...). Because Kog'Maw's steroids are so good. I <3 Jinx too, but I still give the little void beastling the edge there.

Ship 0F Ducks4/15/2015, 11:46:52 AM1 votes

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ItsStout4/15/2015, 12:02:17 PM1 votes

First off, League of Legends does not have "hypercarries". DotA and DotA2 do.

On top of that, the only champion comparable to Kog in terms of carry level (as Vayne and Tristana have an assasin-esque role lategame due to Vayne's range reducing safety and Trist's low AS forcing her to jump in to deal damage) is Twitch, who is also immobile.

GiveMeTalonPlz4/15/2015, 3:17:39 PM1 votes

Kog maw does outdamage all late game. He has such a high range and such ridiculous shred on even the tankiest champs in the game. He is meant to be an artillery price, devastating from range, but if he is in the wrong spot or gets closed on, that is his weakness.

Vayne has mobility but literally not even a comparable range to kog maw. Imagine vayne without ult and tumble, she would get crushed by bruisers because she has to stand right in front of them more or less. Also she is meant to assassinate other carries, where kog maw is built to shred tanks

Drunk Rummate4/15/2015, 3:19:42 PM1 votes

Kog's damage is pretty insane. Sometimes I wonder if the people who make these threads even tried to play the champion they're talking about.