Can we get a crit-based non-keystone rune?

UnbornHeretic··2 votes·902 views

I feel like either an alacrity or hunter (more particularly alacrity) crit chance rune for mid-late game might add to the game. A 10% crit chance would be worth as much gold effifency as the 18% attack speed from alacrity and would open up new builds. ADC's can just go Infinity Edge and Essence Reaver if they mainly want the AD like MF and still get the full benefit of Essence Reaver. A champion could also go three crit attack speed items and rush a 100% crit chance if they feel like it or want to get their damage elsewhere. I feel like it can really add to the variety of builds ADC's can take instead of I.E/ E.R and an attack speed item always.

Other than that, a % crit damage rune like before the rune update would not do bad on a particularly hunter type rune, because that is the tree for more damage and for assassins and so they possibly could build crit too (like they have before) or have crit in their kits. The hunter rune doesn't have any options for those that just want damage and it can give assassins an option of more damage, roaming power, sustain, or item cooldowns. It can also be for ADC's that want a bit more damage late game in exchange for early game pressure.

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The Bad Touch5 votes

Sure.

Can we also raise the price of item 3046 item 3094 item 3087 to 2900g?

The Bad Touch3 votes

Also let's add Atma's Impaler back, and bring Warmog's back up to 1370HP.

So Bruisers can exist.

Then you can have..

a 5% crit damage rune.

Sasogwa1 votes

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Also let's add Atma's Impaler back, and bring Warmog's back up to 1370HP.

So Bruisers can exist.

Then you can have..

a 5% crit damage rune.

Honestly a crit damage (and not critchance) rune would be cool. It's absolutely garbage early (trust me, i've had rune pages with critchance before runds reforged the early was abysmally bad) It rewards a lategame kinda cheesy build in a pretty cool fashion imo. But the fact it would occupy a small slot only for a lategame insurance, not like before where it took 3 quintessences and all reds, is a thing to be considered. It might reveal really good.

The point stands that rapidfure/statikk/hurricane (even IE tbh) need a price increase though

The Bad Touch2 votes

{quoted}

Honestly a crit damage (and not critchance) rune would be cool. It's absolutely garbage early (trust me, i've had rune pages with critchance before runds reforged the early was abysmally bad) It rewards a lategame kinda cheesy build in a pretty cool fashion imo. But the fact it would occupy a small slot only for a lategame insurance, not like before where it took 3 quintessences and all reds, is a thing to be considered. It might reveal really good.

The point stands that rapidfure/statikk/hurricane (even IE tbh) need a price increase though

And twitch will use it to penta one auto faster.

The Bad Touch2 votes

Also can we revert item 3035 to it's old form?

And remove AD fromitem 3026?

item 3139 And nerf this already?

You know.. so adc's can be about as strong as they were for the first 4 seasons of the game?

Crett1 votes

i don't think innate crit chance belongs on runes, as it seems to me like the stat is balanced around item pathing that keeps other classes from wanting to build it (aside from that, i feel like no one wants to see anyone critting 1 minute into the game lmao. that being said, a scaling crit chance rune may have more viability, but i don't like the idea of a champion having a miniscule chance to randomly deal twice the damage on an auto without building anything)

crit damage is a different beast entirely, and that beast's name is damage creep

The Bad Touch1 votes

And while we are at it lower item 3031 crit bonus damage back to 20%?

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Learn how to make one comment. All you’re doing is spamming.

The Bad Touch1 votes

And cut the CDR on item 3508 in half?

Oxyrotten1 votes

Crit based builds aren't viable anymore.

Sasogwa1 votes

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Crit based builds aren't viable anymore.

Sorry, what?

Oxyrotten1 votes

With the implementation of tabi and bramble, how many people do you see building crit (yasuo's aside).

ADC meta is lethality, and crit tops like tryn, aatrox, etc are unviable. The age of crit is over.

Sasogwa1 votes

{quoted}

With the implementation of tabi and bramble, how many people do you see building crit (yasuo's aside).

ADC meta is lethality, and crit tops like tryn, aatrox, etc are unviable. The age of crit is over.

What about Sivir Tristana Vayne Jinx Caitlyn Ashe ? Haven't seen them build lethality much, have you? Also by the way bramble isn't so good against crit, it's just good against lifesteal (which arguably works better with crit, yet it's far from the old thornmail anti-adc)

The Bad Touch1 votes

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What about Sivir Tristana Vayne Jinx Caitlyn Ashe ? Haven't seen them build lethality much, have you? Also by the way bramble isn't so good against crit, it's just good against lifesteal (which arguably works better with crit, yet it's far from the old thornmail anti-adc)

Yup Crit with Last Whisper(and it's upgrades) is actually very effective vs Thornmail.

On Hit simply hits it spike after only 2 itemsitem 3124 item 3153 (and is effectively finished at 3item 3085). Where as Crit needs item 3094 item 3087 item 3031 item 3035 before it passes on-hit up.

On Hit also had that strong mid game spike from item 3504 As well as Lulu

Late game though... crit still does more damage. Even to tanks. And even on KogMaw Varus. Feel free to test it.

You'd never made it through lane on crit KogMaw though... lol.

Also "late game" doesn't happen.. unless you "make" it happen. Hard to get people in solo queue to listen some times.

The Bad Touch2 votes

{quoted}

With the implementation of tabi and bramble, how many people do you see building crit (yasuo's aside).

ADC meta is lethality, and crit tops like tryn, aatrox, etc are unviable. The age of crit is over.

Where did you hear that BS?

7 of the top 10 win rate ADC's build crit.... The only 3 that don't are Kog/Varus/MF.

Also only 1 out of the top 4 doesn't build crit. (Kog)

The Bad Touch1 votes

And remove the shield from item 3072 .

The Bad Touch1 votes

item 3147 Also needs to be melee only.

as does item 3071 and item 3142.

The Bad Touch1 votes

Long story not quite short. ADC are op as shit, they aren't needing/getting buffs this season.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

add a crit chance rune and make it melee only.

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