Fiora's Parry slows AS by 50%
Nasus's Wither slows AS by 17.5%-47.5%
Malphite's Ground Slam slows by 30-50%
And while Fiora's slow doesn't last as long it's important to remember that it isn't the primary function of the ability like Malphite and Nasus's slows are.
You can dodge Fiora's parry unless you were doing something she was parrying. And you can bait out parry.
Nasus Wither is point and click and is one of the strongest MS slows in the game.
Ground Slam will actually hurt because it scales with armor. Fiora doesn't build AP for W.
And no, it is one of the primary functions. It is for dueling people. If she landed the slow on you in the first place, she either parried something or you were stupid enough to stand still to get hit by a slow and forecasted skillshot.
I didn't even know Fiora had an AS slow. Why does she even need that? Is the short cd dash, parry, innate sustain, and true damage not enough?
for 1.5 seconds before tenacity. maybe they wanted her to be able to duel marksmen.
It's pretty much the only prayer she has at outdueling high AS based duelists like Yasuo, Jax, and Tryndamere.
Yea, it's just another case of unneccesary invisible power. It's rarly relevant, but if it does get relevant, it screws people while not rearly costeing her any power in the kit. it's like randomly slapping an AS slow on Irelias E...
cool info, ty!
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woah! I never knew that! good fact.
I'll be honest in that I have always felt the debuff to be tacked on. I mean alongside the Slow and possible stun it's feel unnecessary. That being said it is also one of the things that makes her a great pick into Quinn, and tbh anyone who beats Quinn is fine with me. I don't think Quinn is absolutely broken, but she's annoying.
Sooo...how long until fiora support becomes a thing based on this (and y'know, the %health true damage, the slow, and potential aoe healing on ult...)
It may not be the worst thing ever now that I think about it. Maybe build it like a tanky sup since you're kinda committing to the kit effects and not ad. Hmm...
Fiora's W has a really long cooldown, nasus wither lvl 1 no cdr is 15 seconds, Fiora's W no CDR lvl 1 is 24 seconds. Nasus' is point and click, last longer, longer range, and the slow gets stronger over time. Fiora W, skillshot, easy to dodge imo, primarily a self peel tool, the attack speed and ms slow aren't applied if you're CC'd by it.
It's to let her to actually have something resembling an option when dueling someone like Tryndamere. She still gets her face punched in, but without the AS slow the lane would be laughably one-sided and she would have no potential to fight him mid and late game by herself.
Is she W's you she either stuns you in which case the AS slow is irrelevant. If it doesn't stun you it's a very brief debuff.
It also is a skillshot with a casting time, not a point and click. I agree it's a little bit unnecesary but it mostly feels irrelevant.
I mean its also on a massive CD.
