Riot doesn't understand Human Nature at all...

Frostmane··4 votes·791 views

Sorry Riot, your whole "play with friends" thing may be nobel and to make up for a fall in revenue that has been happening since the beginning of Season 6 (Nobody to blame but yourself, Juggernaught changes were awful, Marksman "rework" was awful and both were unhealthy in terms of game balanace. You should fire the person who conceptialised this.)

But you don't seem to understand basic human psychology. Normal people will pick the shortest and easiest path to victory. Teaming up with 4 other friends is simply disgusting and really shows the game for what it is. Its really no different then "gang warfare" on the streets of many different countries. People walk around with a pack mentality because that is what they are, nothing better then lesser animals.

You really think that if you add something to the game, it will be a long time before some loser sat at his computer with no life, no job, no girlfriend ultimately finds a way to abuse it. You should have NEVER given people the ability to team up as a 4 man in ranked as you have made your entire ranked system completely pointless as its ultimately completely unfair playing solo against people who are probably s%%%%%%ing in voice.

Riot, you need to understand that MOST people don't get the concept of honor. Most people arn't decent... they will find whatever crack they can to abuse the game to thier own advantage. People are like that, most people will willingly kill another person in real life to get their own way. This has been shown throughout history.

If you want your game to be "generational" (which is delusional by the way because no multiplayer online game has really lasted that long without falling into decay - look at World of Warcraft). Then you need to understand how balance contributes to that. People are not going to play this game when they feel its fundimentally unfair. I do not want to be forced to play as a 4-made premade or I won't win and I do not want to killed by the most cheesy imbalances that you have added to the game.

If you want League to be "Generational" then get your head out your asses, return SoloQ to what it was before, give each champion CLEAR strengths and weaknesses. You may do better from a revenue standpoint at the start because of all the foreign premade scum that will love easy wins but I promise you, overtime they will get bored and leave and then other people, like me, who prefer to play solo will leave because of how unfair the game is and it IS unfair at the moment.

Oh and STOP REMOVING CONTENT FROM THE GAME, because that is not going to solve anything. SMITE and HOTS has more gamemodes then this game does.

You have no idea about how to keep something sustainable... the whole key is consistency, to keep the game appealing to all and you just have absolutely NO understanding of that concept.

21 Comments

Live2LetDie6 votes

It's funny really how people online think they know what is happening with the game. All of this was your personal opinion and a collection of other pissed off people making statements.

  1. Riot has the true stats of the game state (games played per month, how many are premade, how many times people get paired with premades, etc..) and making assumptions because a few thousand out of the millions of users are upset is hilarious at the least.

  2. Those displeased are always louder than those enjoying the game. Solo Q crying is no different than champ nerfs and buffs QQ.

  3. People who continuously say rank doesn't matter this season obviously don't look at the numbers. Plat3+ has the exact same % it had last season which you would expect an influx of people if they were boosted or carried.

Post is just fillies with a bias opinion and no stats to back it up.

BloodyTompon1 votes

Largely agree, it is just a rant, Riot does have the stats and the displeased are generally louder.

But, being the anal person that I am, I have to point out that 3 doesn't really support either way (did you mean would not expect btw? ) It get's complicated quickly because there are a confluence of factors at play in that system. From the coding/implementation side, Rank is a user-friendly overlay of a Matchmaking number (similar to Elo) and the system tries to force roughly the same percentages. So there could have been an influx of 'boosters' (what exactly that entails in a post soloQ system is debatable IMO) and they system would attempt to account for that. Theres a lot of things it can do: Reduce some people from Plat, make it harder to climb, award a few more LP here, subtract a few more LP here, make people play more skilled people so the win/lose stabilises. -The combination of these can result in the same % even if they are being boosted. It's virtually impossible to gleam much information about such things without access to Riots data. On the perception side, many people are arguing ranked is meaningless because it's more team focused. They see rank as a measure of skill and believe that individual skill trumps. This isn't wrong, btw although nor is it right. It's a bit like having to choose between a strawberry and chocolate milkshake. Neither is objectively better, but one has to be made.

Cowgirl Ed3 votes

i laugh everytime when people still thinks riot gives a shit about what players think about the game

Frostmane1 votes

I am pretty much sure that they don't but they are driving their game into the ground to satisfy the most childish part of the community. If you give people easy wins, then they are just going to get bored and leave anyway. If Riot wants longevity to their game, then they need to take a different approach.

League needs to be strategic and fun for both the winning and losing side, with the game's outcome decided on a knife-edge. That will not happen as long as Riot allows 4 man premades to team up in every game mode.

pulledchicken2 votes

Riot gives a shit about their Playerbase! i mean Riot lie's to us, many times. i lie to people i dont give a shit about. feel me?

venomous frost3 votes

"But you don't seem to understand basic human psychology"

one of the rioters actually has a PhD in psychology, so jokes on you

Frostmane1 votes

Then I would expect them to understand how these changes are affecting their game in a negative fashion. People are nothing more then pack animals and should not be rewarded just for teaming up with people that they know because it creates an unfair environment and makes the whole game not fun for anyone.

venomous frost2 votes

well, he did use his PhD to ask a biased question, but i forgot the psychology term for it. Jokes on us i guess

He asked in a questionnaire 'do you like playing with friends', and obviously 99% answered yes because EVERYBODY likes playing with friends, even solo players. But they used it to justify a positive feedback on DQ, everyone in the questionnaire got manipulated.

Frostmane1 votes

I'm a psychologist myself, with a degree and yes, that is one of the things that we learn in University and what they teach. Something I refused to do, out of principle. We are taught to manipulate statistics to support whatever a company or corporate entity wants. So yeah, when somebody says they are an "expert", just remember this;

"They are always being paid"

Billy VoHagen2 votes

You mean the guy who moved on and quit?

venomous frost1 votes

could be, don't really follow who quits or not

RIP Resonance2 votes

I lul'd

BloodyTompon1 votes

To be fair, he wasn't the only one with a psych degree. (Although I did lol at the shutdown)

Cowgirl Ed2 votes

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You mean the guy who moved on and quit?

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Joman7673 votes

Buddy, you just insulted rito and everyone who reads this post, while comparing dynamic queue to being shot in the head? I'm not for dynamic queue in any way but this post honestly needs to be taken down.

Frostmane1 votes

As I said, this is Human Nature, its not insulting anyone. It is showing what humans truely are as a species. You can look at any example throughout history and you will see exactly what I said is true. Unfortunately, humans do not like the truth and want to pretend to be something more then they actually are. This post is not insulting anyone and if you feel that it does, you are missing the point.

BloodyTompon2 votes

You know in general it's not that important to agree with somebody. The important thing is to be able to see the other perspective; to understand. I can tell from this post you neither agree with Riot nor, unfortunately, understand.

As an aside have you even heard of the Dunning-Kruger Effect?

Billy VoHagen1 votes

DQ is like gangwarfare on the streets

Yeah, but like, not at all.

NaturesMayhem1 votes

I feel like Riot should just restart back to season 5 or 4. As for the whole being gang banged by premade teams I feel like that is wrong. Riot has really gotten better at matching players up with solo players if they are solo themselves and if I ever team with my friends then we usually go against a team with the same amount of premades. As for saying you are an expert, I highly doubt that.

FatesDefiler1 votes

i will kill a man. i feel as if it's just another of my particular talents being wasted.

ViiLLAiN1 votes

IT AINT THAT SERIOUS BRUH

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