[Riot]Constructive explanation on Veigar changes and how you should balance him.

Swtos·3/2/2015, 10:09:02 AM·3 votes·1,045 views

So, without a needless introduction I will get straight to the point.

(As of 2/3/15 Veigar's winrate on LoLKing is 41.75%, 4th lowest winrate in the game)

Q Changes The changes to Q are heavy nerfs.

  • You do not really get more AP than before for 2 reasons: First, I do not recall increasing how many minions come to lane and Second, you should not use your Q only for farming(you need to harass a little as well).
  • Even if you manage to stun, you will not be able to Q your opponent anymore since minions will block it(and its very risky for veigar to try to get close for Q).*
  • Its cooldown is longer at maximum level.*

Suggestion:

Revert the changes to it and reduce its AP ratio to 0.5(from 0.) - Slight nerf

W Changes

Fine changes, but spell is useless if you can't stun someone.

Suggestion:

Keep as is.

E Changes

In my opinion changes are pointing in the right direction, but let me explain why the .75 delay is too much.

Veigar's E has a .5 second casting time(or .25, can anyone confirm this). While lower skill players will not really be able to abuse it, better players will do. Basically veigar has to stop moving for .5 seconds before casting his E. Good players know that and can easily avoid his E. So with the current changes, bad players have .75 seconds to dodge(which is a lot, even bots dodge it) and good players have 1.25 seconds to dodge it.

Suggestion: * Revert the changes you made on its range and and cooldown and do one of the following:

  • Reduce casting time to .25(if it isn't already) and stun delay to .25 seconds(so a total of .5 seconds)
  • Remove casting time and reduce stun delay to .5 seconds(best option in my opinion)*

R Changes

R changes are fine, honestly(1.2 AP Ratio was too much).

Suggestion:

The changes to its mana cost and cooldown are nice so keep them. But, in my opinion you should also reduce bonus damage equal to opponent's AP to 50%(80%). Its pretty unfair to be able to instakill squishy mid laners with one R late game.

Final Thoughts:

With these changes, Veigar will be better than he was before, and will keep that high skill-high reward gameplay he had all this time. On a final note, you should buff or change his passive, because its useless.

Any riot posts(rare these days) are appreciated.

4 Comments

Nyaruko Chan3/2/2015, 1:52:47 PM2 votes

His Q was a massive buff. It allows you to double your AP farming and on top of that it allows you to harass way more since it can kill a minion and hit a champ at the same time plus its huge range bonus lets him farm a lot safer.

Erockandroll3/2/2015, 3:58:24 PM1 votes

I tried him in a bot game. I actually like his Q better the way it is. Though his E is a problem, disregarding the .75 second delay, the cast time does make it feel clunky. I feel if riot wants to Veigar to be good, they will need to smooth out parts of his kit. particularly the cast time on his E.