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When to use which support barrier caster with which ADC?

alonzo070592··1 votes·657 views

I end up having to play support 99% of the time.

The champions that are my most used are: Janna Karma Lulu Lux and Sona

For me, it is just a very easy job to stand behind everyone and to give everyone barriers.

What is the strategy for which champion I should use in a battle?

Which ADCs work well with each champion?

6 Comments

F4U Corsair1 votes

ok long subject, As supports can tailor their play styles to a lot of lanes ill give you a general overview

1)Janna Janna is the best peeling support, you will want to pick her either with low mobility adc's that are vunerable to diving like Twitch Ashe KogMaw (if the other team has hard divers like Diana Akali for example) Or bc of the extra ad on her E (her shield) you can also match her up with fast tower pushers Jinx Tristana , or one last one burst adc's who can almost 2v1 the lane like Draven or Graves

2)Karma I actually don't play this one much but I would not pair this up with any thing but other poke lanes as you don't offer much to your adc other than a small shield so I would go Caitlyn Varus Ashe But again this is not one I play often so it could work with others well. Karma is mostly team oriented and peel for the back line with the slow on Q and the Teather to root. And the AOE speed boost which you can get from item 3069 really makes it a fast Team speed boost pair it with a Sivir and what you have is very hard engage

3)Lulu Lulu is a peeling support with a fairly unique skill set, A single target speed boost, a shield, and an ultimate that gives health and a knock up are all really good for an adc who is going to be closer to the front lines(low range ), and is at high risk to get dove on Draven Graves Sivir MissFortune Vayne , how ever you will most commonly see lulu picked with a KogMaw as he is immobile and basicly a moving turret, pick lulu when your adc needs to carry hard in the late game so that you can keep them alive long enough to win you the fight.

4)Lux Lux In theory can be a support, a ranged stun, a ranged slow, a shield. But lets be honest if their adc has half a brain then your abilities are telegraphed and you don't do much damage as a support in the early game. However if you do want to do it I would suggest poke/ long ranged adc's who just need to be peeled for like Ashe Caitlyn Varus Tristana these adc's can 2v1 the lane and get ok farm with their range and abilities you just need to keep the other support away from them. But as I don't Play lux really at all ive really got nothing else

5)Sona Sona how ever ive played quite a bit, She is the ultimate poke support, so I would pick her with other poke oriented adc's Ashe Varus Caitlyn as you will just be trying to bully out your opponents while sustaining through their damage. Sona's trade off however is that she has the lowest base health in the game so you'll have to be a tad bit careful against things like Alistar Leona as these guys can lock you down the the enemy adc you were poking down is now getting free gold. Take sona if your have these poke champs and the rest of your team needs some form of engage as sona's summoner 4 Cresendo (R) is one of the more powerful engage options in the game.

Hoped this kinda helped, im not the best player ever but this is what ive learned in a nutshell, add me and we can play some XD GL on the Rift

Fiveofswords1 votes

well i do quite a lot of Lux support myself and must disagree with your idea about her :P first of all she does not have a stun. she has a snare. thats a big difference of course. nothing about your abilities are telegraphed. a decent lux support has guarunteed damage. and quite a lot of it early game in fact. her difficult spot is mid game when she simply wont do much damage...since ofc shes support and is spending money on sightstone etc and has lower level...but she starts to pick up again late game. if you can land your skillshots then lux q is extremely effective at basically refuting ganks. Because people never gank through minions. you mentioned sona being the best poke support....sona doesnt light a candle to lux in poke. its no contest at all. As far as shielding is concerned lux shouldnt be underestimated. she can sheild many people simultaneously. And the range is pretty good. Its arguably the best sheild in the game.

as far as the op question, you dont jsut sit back and give people barriers. Its very much your job to annoy the enemy laners as much as possible without getting yourself in danger. its also your job to give vision

the support you pick should not only be considering your adc. It also depends a great deal on the entire team of both sides. overall Janna is very low damage but basically impossible to kill herself because of her absurd move speed, and her sheild is quite good as both a buff to the adc damage and survival. her disengage with the tornado and ult is great. She is basically best when your adc is really improtant....like a really pro kog maw who needs the help with disengage. janna might be a tad bit irrelevant if your team already has great disengage and mobility etc.

i really dont play karma or lulu.

lux is a good choice when you want to try to win the lane hard early and shut the enemy adc down. And she offers fair poke damage from safe distance during teamfights. She teams well with adc who can increase her poke and/or snipe people you almost killed...like say jinx or cait. Shes also a good choice if the enemy team has a lot of aoe damage because of how her sheild works.

sona is basically one of the safe picks...shes decent in any situation. She can do quite good poke in lane but the range isnt so amazing that shes totally safe when she goes in for poke. She does have a reliable heal which the other supports named lack and thats also a plus. And her ult is quite good especially if the enemy team has a lot of shorter range stuff (mostly melee, vayne, etc) Sona may be a poor choice against a hard engage support like leona or blitz....because shes very easy to kill when engaged on. (even compared to the squishies named...lux can remain pretty safe with her range and sheild, while janna simply cant be caught)

F4U Corsair1 votes

fair enough

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Someone asking for Lulu advice? I'M HERE!!!!! (WARNING LONG POST)

1. Who works best with her? Anyone who are autoattack reliant. Even better if they can be at the frontlines. Good examples are Draven Graves Kalista Vayne Tristana Quinn (yes Quinn/Lulu lane is very nasty). Of course, backline and longer-range ADCs such as Jinx Caitlyn Twitch are just as great. She still works with caster ADCs, though, so there's actually no one that she can't work with.

2. What should you do in lane? Compared to most supports, Lulu isn't easy if you want to stay alive, do something, and not drain yourself too quickly in lane. Don't forget her range is a LOT shorter than those compared to other ranged supports, unless you have heals (in which she doesn't). Optimally, you should be standing side-by-side, poking and timing your pokes/shields properly. Since you like shields, I'll just focus primarily on that. Contrary to popular belief, it is far better to E ally cast than enemy cast in general, because E ally cast actually gives someone not only a (weak) shield, but also an AA-steroid that deals magic damage! Which also means, yes, your ADC can help break Morgy shields, even though you should use Q to break it completely before anyone uses any CC spells. Use W sparingly since it has a long cooldown. Try to AA more instead of Q to harass, so you can sustain longer in lane. Since Lulu's supposed to be THE backline buff/debuff support, don't fret too much if you are a little behind the ADC position-wise. Just make sure your ADC doesn't get into deep trouble.

3. What should you do in teamfights? This is pretty much thinking, decision-making, and "use your own judgment". Yeah, sorry, this isn't Lulu mid/top where you blindly mash buttons and be useful; that's not how support works. Since you're Lulu and that you're squishy in general, you should try to stay in the backlines and peel for squishies. In general:

  • Q: Good for siege/general slowing. Try using it as much as you can so you can peel/help lockdown better.
  • W: If enemy team isn't that dive-heavy, use it for tanks/assassins to engage. If enemy team is kinda dive-heavy, save it to stop them, and peel. If enemy team has channeling abilities, save that to stop them from channeling. Great for single idiots walking into the wrong neighborhood. VERY powerful disengage tool.
  • E: More ally-cast, less enemy-cast, unless it's shit like Akali/Wukong/Vayne/etc. Enemy cast should ALWAYS be used to provide vision, and nothing else. Either give this to your AA-reliant teammate, or just your ADC in general to help boost more "hidden" magic damage. Since you're supporting and that this is what you should max last, your shield won't absorb much damage, and that's okay.
  • R: This isn't just a tool to save, but to engage as well. If you can use it on a diving tank/assassin for a fancy wombo-combo, go forth! If your team got so much CC that your ult isn't necessary, then use that for saves. Try NOT to use it on yourself unless it's ABSOLUTELY necessary.

4. Any awesome items to build?

  • item 3504 : If the stats alone don't make you smile enough, then the passive is just as great. It makes the purpose of E ally cast even more meaningful.
  • item 3165 : You hate healers or shit like Swain? Your midlaner is AD? This book is affordable to even supports, and you'll definitely look smarter once you build it. Hey, it's got great stats too!
  • And of course, choosing between item 3301 or item 3303 : Spellthief if you can spend at least 50% of your time harassing. Otherwise, go coin. Use your own judgment, but in general in a Caitlyn lane, go coin. Switching items would only lose income output, so it's not necessary.

Otherwise your typical support items are good enough.


Since I one-trick main Lulu, I don't have much clear info for anyone else. But in general:

Janna : E = free BF sword + very strong shielding power. As Janna, you can literally stay in the backlines forever and just peel from squishies. She's THE disengage support, so don't fret if you can't land fancy combos.

Karma : A more magelike version of Lulu, but without disables in the place of having lockdowns. Since she got so much raw damage and range, mash Q for the maximum (annoying) harass potential. Use W if someone gets TOO close, or you want to lock someone down. E is for general shielding. In lane, use more R+Q for the nastiest harass potential. In teamfights, try to use R+W for super strong lockdown, or R+E for free Sivir ult + shields for all.

Lux : If you want to look like a midlaner crying about the fact that you can't get mid. Nah, don't shoot me, I'm just kidding. She doesn't have much utility on her, and drains mana faster than Lulu does. Which means, her harass potential is limited. If you wanna be THE carry support, that's your go. Even though Lux botlane is NOT recommended, unless in Bronze or some shit.

Sona : Like Lux, she doesn't have much utility, but more raw damage/heals instead. As Sona, you're supposed to poke as much as you can (Q passive hurts like a bitch I tell ya), and help sustain you and your ally in lane. Uh... there's not much to her if you wanna be a decent one, but to be a great one, you gotta know how to use your passive (like how Karma uses her ult), land great stuns without dying, and fiddle with your auras for maximum effect. Q aura = bonus magic damage upon next hit for allies, W aura = mini shield, and E aura = more movement speed.

Hope all this helps.

Full guide (by me) here: http://www.lolking.net/guides/316127

Fiveofswords1 votes

"She doesn't have much utility on her, and drains mana faster than Lulu does. Which means, her harass potential is limited. If you wanna be THE carry support, that's your go. Even though Lux botlane is NOT recommended, unless in Bronze or some shit."

ive learned a bit about lux support by watching them use it in diamond ranked games. its true she uses a fair bit of mana. Personally, i use clarity with her. considering that you seem to like item 3504 im surprised you havent considered lux more. Shes the only support that can sheild 5 people with 1 spell.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Censer on Lux... god that shit sounds OP already.

Tbh the last time I see a legit Lux support was a while ago in mid gold. Doesn't mean she's not viable as a support, it's just sheep that might be a little ticked on "unconventional picks".

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