Change Nocturne's "Dynamic Gameplay Button"

CloakAndGrenade·Dec 4, 2018·1 votes·1,060 views

As fun as semi-global, unstoppable, unblockable, undodgeable, unflashable, point and click, near instant one-shots are, having literally any counterplay besides "Flash over a wall after his ult lands but before the fear hits and pray his flash isn't also up too".

INB4 the usual bombardment of boards posts, No, I'm not saying he is broken. I do not care what his win rate is.

The -point- is that Nocturne's ult does not have any form of meaningful counterplay to the vast majority of champions, especially if he gets even slightly ahead.

10 Comments

alasarcherDec 4, 20181 votes

Isnt Zhonya/stopwattch highly effective vs that ult?

ParoeDec 4, 20181 votes

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Isnt Zhonya/stopwattch highly effective vs that ult?

As is staying together. A nocturne who dives a team is a nocturne who doesnt live. Also building armor and/or HP really helps. Even a black cleaver alone makes it so he cant pop you when ahead.

Edit; Also, many, many, many, many champions have uninteractive point and go ultimates. If you have a complaint about targeted abilities, complain about ranged basic attacks or move on to SMITE.

AseraanDec 4, 20181 votes

They arent semi global thoXD

Anyway we get it Git Gud.

Im sure i read a thread about a guy even wants to buff noc cuz hes weak you know.:D

CloakAndGrenadeDec 4, 20181 votes

Honestly, reworking his ult could even be a way to buff him. Make it more situational, give it a higher skill ceiling, and you can make it stronger. Like they did with warwick's ult. I'm not saying the solution is just to make it a skillshot, but it's the right concept I think.

Crispy0SnakeDec 4, 20181 votes

Yeah play against Neith once and thank god no adc in league has her abilities... what a busted character.

CloakAndGrenadeDec 4, 20181 votes

There's targetted abilities, then there's massive range one-shotting targetted abilities. How you can compare what noct's ult does to an auto attack? Are your crops safe with a strawman that large?

ParoeDec 4, 20182 votes

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There's targetted abilities, then there's massive range one-shotting targetted abilities. How you can compare what noct's ult does to an auto attack? Are your crops safe with a strawman that large?

Youre complaining about a melee champion whose ultimate is a gap closer that deals decent damage. Get off your soap box and let go of your blind hatred for anything that you cant kite infinitely or bursts harder than you when they build squishy AD.

CloakAndGrenadeDec 4, 20181 votes

Another strawman. Not even gonna bother discussing this with you if you aren't actually going to address my arguments on their merit.

ParoeDec 4, 20181 votes

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Another strawman. Not even gonna bother discussing this with you if you aren't actually going to address my arguments on their merit.

You keep using that word. I dont think it means what you think it means.

CloakAndGrenadeDec 4, 20181 votes

Sure, but I'd hardly call a zhonya's active an outplay. I still think it'd be healthier for his ult to have more situational counterplay, so you can out-think him and outplay him. In a similar vein to what they did with warwick's ult with his rework.