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For real? You are probably not adjusting your build to counter him.
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I think would those items you probably can beat him and he won't be able to kill you
Jokes on you, I have cheat engine.

"Morde is so OP" - Boards
Something can be OP, even if it has counters. Rammus always hard countered Urgot, he was still pretty busted for quite some time.
[{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yq275Ypu,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-14T16:17:07.585+0000)
Something can be OP, even if it has counters. Rammus always hard countered Urgot, he was still pretty busted for quite some time.
I was mocking the fact they were making it very overblown like they usually do. Shit ends up become grounds for a champ to end up like our poor friend Sylas here.
Care to elaborate?
Hes practically a troll pick due to how badly the boards wanted him nerfed.
Well, first off, Riot don't give a shit about their boards, and second: https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/sylas/master
Well, first off, Riot don't give a shit about their boards, and second: https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/sylas/master
Oh wow, masters, wow. Do you understand there are more divisions and ranks than masters? Also 48% for a champ like him is terrible.
First off, it takes literally two clicks to check other elos, and second, when he's picked every 4th game and banned every 3rd game, that 48% becomes almost meaningless.
First off, it takes literally two clicks to check other elos, and second, when he's picked every 4th game and banned every 3rd game, that 48% becomes almost meaningless.
People ban him because they dont want to deal with him. Its like Yasuo.
Well, no point in arguing anymore. By now he's dropped down to 42% win rate, so I guess you were right on him being gutted, I just didn't know it took League of Graph's stats half a week to adjust to a new patch.
Well, no point in arguing anymore. By now he's dropped down to 42% win rate, so I guess you were right on him being gutted, I just didn't know it took League of Graph's stats half a week to adjust to a new patch.
Yeah, apparently U.GG is the closest you can get to League's internal data. This was confirmed by Riot themselves. I understand why you argued in the first place (inconsistent info), so dont feel bad.
What about a 41% WinRate Mid? Do you still consider that meaningless?
41% Winrate and keeps going down. It was 42% Winrate Mid before.
It doesn't even say 48%, it is now 41% Win Rate Mid...
It doesn't even say 48%, it is now 42% - 43% Win Rate.
Masters had him at 48%, but its likely up there cuz people are gonna back away from touching him since he's so bad. I know how bad his winrate is, without needing to see it because how it feels to play him is like you had every limb in your body just ripped from you. I use to be the 14th best in NA for Sylas players, and that was achieved during his "weakest" point that everyone said he was at, so I know a good thing or two about him. Bet Voy's depressed about his state too.
are you sure it's just the boards that's getting him nerfed? reddit and twitter communities are bigger so it would make more sense if they listened to those before they listen to us
[{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yq275Ypu,comment-id=000200000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-16T08:55:28.534+0000)
are you sure it's just the boards that's getting him nerfed? reddit and twitter communities are bigger so it would make more sense if they listened to those before they listen to us
Either way the nerfs were excessive, and the proposed AP item changes so far wont fix him. We need like a stat or something that turns a part of their base AD into AP. Does that mean some stuff might need to be adjusted (on other champs that are not just Sylas)? Yes, but this gives them a boost (Especially Sylas who is basically being booted from mid to go top, but his dueling's been nerfed so bad he can't) considering they need to buy items like RoA and Liandry's, which have mk-ish effects vs the burst power of Luden's that grants mana but no health. Thats the issue: Healthless AP items are better than the ones with health just by design alone.
[{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yq275Ypu,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-14T16:17:07.585+0000)
Something can be OP, even if it has counters. Rammus always hard countered Urgot, he was still pretty busted for quite some time.
Used to counter * they fixed thornmail and Rammus W for Urgot W back in time. I was picking Rammus into Urgot as he was killing himself on speed of light but it got fixed.
I was the one who made the original joke. IMPOSTER
[{quoted}](name=Lord Apex,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yq275Ypu,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-14T16:49:08.587+0000)
I was the one who made the original joke. IMPOSTER
FIRST!
That settles it.
[{quoted}](name=Lord Apex,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yq275Ypu,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-14T16:49:08.587+0000)
I was the one who made the original joke. IMPOSTER
FIRST!
That settles it.
I Propose a 1 vs 1 in the death realm. [slayer-jinx-wink]
I Propose a 1 vs 1 in the death realm. [slayer-jinx-wink]
Me picking 
Eating https://www.halegroves.com/images/xl/4t-buy-temple-oranges-online.jpg?v=100009962991-2
Garen is annoying too.
Open dem gates!
Another champion who seems to give Morde a really hard time is Rengar believe it or not. I'm a Rengar one trick who plays him exclusively top lane, and I went up against a Mordekaiser expecting to get my ass handed to me, but turns out it was the other way around. That said, ranged champions as well has champs who can poke in and out such and Rengar and Renekton are super strong against this new Morde.
If you play mord and udyr is your only counter, why not just ban him?