Janna needs some utility removal.

For Carthage··2 votes·377 views

Currently, she's safely nestled above 52% winrates at the very least throughout the last few weeks.

She has over 30% popularity in Diamond and up.

I think it may have something to do with her having over 500 MS with nothing but boots of mobility as well as a slow, a knockback, and a knockup.

In other words, there's a problem when Mejai's Soulstealer is a legitimately suggested item at all times on a champ. That's just saying that that champ isn't likely to die ever.

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Meep Man2 votes

So it's surprising to see a movement speed enhancing champion move quickly with only boots that give 105 movement speed?

For Carthage1 votes

I like how you kind of just jumped down my throat by only targeting one aspect of the argument.

500+ free movement speed (with no homeguard's or other abilities) is more movement speed than most champs can get. That'd be fine if that was about the only thing about it. Couple that with a knockup, a knockback, and a pretty hefty slow (all that I mentioned), again, she is by far the safest champ in the game with all that utility.

So next time you just want to try to defend what probably your main support champion (for good reason as she is far, far, far too safe and reliable to be healthy for the game), try not to be so tactless.

Jamaree1 votes

But...but she is a support, everyone knows supports are the weakest of the weak and can NEVER be a problem.

SeargentAnus1 votes

Her passive could be looked at, but that's it. Mainly MOVEMENT SPEED BONUS: 4 / 6 / 8 / 10 / 12% (+ 2% AP) When most Janna's land between 300-400 AP this means she'll get. 12% +7% (if 350 is reached) +5% (Passive) +1.5% (Masteries) +5% OOC This is a bonus of 31.5% while out of combat or 26.5% while in combat. Without boots and 31.5% she'll reach 440.53 MS Without boots and 26.5% she'll reach 423.78 MS With Tier 1 boots and 31.5% she'll reach 473.40 MS With Tier 1 boots and 26.5% she'll reach 455.40 MS With Mobi boots and 31.5% she'll reach 578.60 MS The average mobility of a champion with Mobi boots is 440. Janna can reach this with tier 1 boots. While her MS shouldn't be gutted it should be looked at.

Sozan51 votes

Actually, I think that her shield amount should be nerfed pretty heavily (or the AD). I believe it's the strongest support shield in game. For comparison (the cooldowns are all the same):

Lulu - E: Mana cost: 60-100 Range: 650 Shield Strength: 240 +60% AP Duration: 6 seconds Other bonuses: +9-105 (+15% AP) magic damage per hit (based on champion level, not skill level), but can be intercepted by any target

Karma - E: Mana cost: 60-100 Range: 800 Shield Strength: 240 +50% AP Duration: 4 seconds Other bonuses: +40-60% Movement speed

Janna - E: Mana cost: 70-110 Range: 800 Shield Strength: 240 +70% AP Duration: 5 seconds Other bonuses: +14-50 (+10% AP) Attack Damage

You see? Not only it gives huge amount of AD (that's a BF sword there - without counting the scaling, which can easily result in ~100 AD in late game) - it's also the strongest one. I'd say to butcher it's scaling to a more sensible level, like:

Shield Strength: 240 +45% AP

Would make sense for a shield that gives so much AD to be the weakest one, not the strongest. I would also nerf the AD on earlier levels, to like:

10/20/30/40/50 +10% AP (from 14/23/32/41/50)

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