Can Nautilus' ult become considered a debuff before it 'lands'?

DJ Di0·Jun 23, 2015·1 votes·1,038 views

It kind of sucks that you can't cleanse it while it's trailing you, and I don't see why you shouldn't be able to buy QSS or take Cleanse so you're not totally screwed when he presses R on you.

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DJ Di0Jun 23, 20151 votes

Woops, somehow the second option didn't go in right but it's supposed to say 'Hell No'.

SookoJun 23, 20151 votes

DJ Di0Jun 23, 20151 votes

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Her too if you want.

SookoJun 23, 20151 votes

Well my point was more towards how these things are supposed to be difficult to counter. Its not just about level 6 ganking powerspikes, but also reliable ways to stop hyper slippery champions like Vayne and Yasuo. If you want an item to stop her buy a GA or a Zhonya's.

And trust me, I hate Vi a lot (When I discovered GP's oranges didn't save me from her, I got so pissed lol), but I can tell that design-wise, some CC just shouldn't be avoidable without a price (which is freezing for two seconds with a Zhonya's)

DJ Di0Jun 23, 20151 votes

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Well my point was more towards how these things are supposed to be difficult to counter. Its not just about level 6 ganking powerspikes, but also reliable ways to stop hyper slippery champions like Vayne and Yasuo. If you want an item to stop her buy a GA or a Zhonya's.

And trust me, I hate Vi a lot (When I discovered GP's oranges didn't save me from her, I got so pissed lol), but I can tell that design-wise, some CC just shouldn't be avoidable without a price (which is freezing for two seconds with a Zhonya's)

I see your point (especially with champions like Kalista being around), but I see these types of ults as screwing over immobile champs more than the mobile ones.

SookoJun 23, 20151 votes

Yes, with that I can agree, but I should also note that there are very few actually immobile ADCs right now (one of them being quite strong ever since her rework), and most immobile mages can build Zhonya's.

A Kalista can reposition the place where she is knocked up (further from her enemies), a Vel'Koz can't. But they are usually screwed over in a similar level. (further from Nautilus means more teamates getting knocked up, and having Vi in your face as a squishy isn't good as soon as she becomes tanky enough)