WTF is wrong with this game?

ΦmalphintoΦ··4 votes·1,704 views
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4x players unranked And me Silver 4

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Diamond 1, Diamond 5, Gold 3, Gold 3 And 1 unranked

Today i played with a challenger in my team, when im silver 4? Like wtf im challenger now?

@Riot if people are Quitting tell us now..

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DuskDaUmbreon2 votes

This match was in normals. Normal MMR≠Ranked MMR.

Ramyskie1 votes

Unranked might be diamond last year etc or just genuinely high normal MMR.

ΦmalphintoΦ1 votes

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Unranked might be diamond last year etc or just genuinely high normal MMR.

Xayah lvl 31 , she was unranked last year (season 7) Diana lvl 65 , she was unranked last year (season 7) Lux lvl 32 , She was unranked last year (season 7) Diana lvl 51 , she was unranked last year (season 7)

you can check that urself if you dont believe.

Kai Guy1 votes

The MMR for Ques does not carry over. http://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=x+HIGH+x I don't see a Challenger on your team in any games played today. Your in normal, keep in mind the MMR for players in normal is going to be different then their ranked, and that Groups queing in normal can have really negative effects on how well teams are built.

If Normal que, works off players Ranked Que mmr what exactly is the point of having the two ques?

ΦmalphintoΦ2 votes

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The MMR for Ques does not carry over. http://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=x+HIGH+x I don't see a Challenger on your team in any games played today. Your in normal, keep in mind the MMR for players in normal is going to be different then their ranked, and that Groups queing in normal can have really negative effects on how well teams are built.

If Normal que, works off players Ranked Que mmr what exactly is the point of having the two ques?

The Taliyah in the game before my last game, he is Diamond 1 but Master last season thou. Not a challenger but master my bad on this one.

Normal have its own MMR referring to ----> https://na.whatismymmr.com/

Edit: i donno how these lvl 30 players got same MMR as i do, something is wrong here. Typically the server is getting low cause Riot bullyed the players till they fucked off of from the game.

Kai Guy1 votes

Because of their previous wins and loss it just so happens that their MMR is in that range, its not that complicated. More games played does not mean you have a higher or better MMR then any one with less games. Look bud, If you assume the system functions in a very basic manner its not surprising to see matches like this. Grab players from pool in a range to build games, does not inherently make for the best balanced teams because it very often does not have players MMR set at a point that actually reflects their skill. A basic system does not have safety nets in place to prevent a mismatch, it simply care about large numbers of games and getting to a point its collected enough games on any one player that it can be self correcting in their placement of mmr to skill. Your going to get lemon games, your gonna get mismatched games, its gonna be both ways.

If its desperate enough to be grabbing grossly mismatched players because a lack of options... then it would/should be entirely capable of distributing them equally between the two teams. It cant be a basic system if it intentionally loads uneven teams. a on paper 1300 elo vs on paper 1800 elo team would never fly in a simple system.

I took the time to plug in every player in the site you listed.

You, normal 1,582 Lux normal 1,624 Vi. 1,559 Xayah 1,616 Diana 1,617

Zac, Vayne, Nidalee, and Sion are a group, All of them have a pretty low # Normals played. Like I said Grouping up does really weird things to MMR gains. Veigars the odd man out but he ques with hommies to much for the site to find his MMR as well.

They all pretty much only play with friends and very rarely do they do normal, I think its reasonable to assume that their MMR after going thru group modifications is in the 1600 range. I don't think they would stay in that range if they play seriously and grinded out more games.

Normal inherently are valued less for balanced teams, blind pick, large groups, its more for fun then to be a competitive match. Stuff like this just happens, nothing personal, nothing evil or intentional, just a uncaring system dicking you over with the way it built teams and not giving a dam about individual matches outside of grabbing from the available pool near the set team MMR.

Cocho1 votes

people dont try as hard in normals as ranked. I mean , the D1 nid did so bad lol

you guys prob wouldve won if that lux wasnt afk.

No surrender1 votes

Calm down

I am often playing drafts or blind picks with 4 friends that varies with MMR between Challenger and Bronze, it means that the 5th guy can be ANYBODY

We can't do this in ranked queue so you are safe from this there, but in normals the laning vs guy from 2 divisions above is a challenge to accept and learn.

Carry on

Vonyalo1 votes

I wonder why Normal MMR and Ranked MMR are two separate things... I mean, it's basically the same game mode, isn't it? Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems pretty stupid to me.

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