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Lets talk about someone left in the dust for a long time

Nagma·1/9/2016, 5:49:47 PM·17 votes·2,124 views
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We will talk about one of the " reworked " champs from our beloved rioters , the one who got her lore ; gameplay ; design ; identity totaly destroyed , the forsaken , the neglected from riot , the forgotten, aka urgot of mid lane aka the " hypercarry " machingun : Cassiopeia She got her rushed rework in 4.16 patch and patch 6.1 is near , and what she got during this year ? only nerfs .. yeah because champs like cassiopeia ( yeah , this kind of neglected char) are not allowed to be in the meta more than 1 month , and i talk about the healthy tank meta where games didnt end in 15 min .

We all know that she is in a bad spot sitting in a good 46 % winrate . Cassio is just unplayable in this meta , i played some games and im rly upset to think that playing yorick would have been more worth . Honestly i was fine , playing half of a champion , a unfinished work and wait that riot wakes up and stop being biased to death . But now cassio is just worthless , and i know what im talking about , make cassio work in this meta is awful

So there was a WHOLE year of negative feedback without any concrete answers from riot only some , " yeah ok but no" " i dont know when " " i understand but we got better project to do than work on cassiopeia " you never planned something ; do you know how the player base translates this lack of answers on something thats your fault ??? ( yeah no one asked from a trash rework old cassio just needed quol changes ) = disrespect " sry but in fact we dont give a fck about cassiopeia , we reworked her and nerfed her now its your problems , whatever no one plays cassio fck you " this how it feels and it feels worse when you decide to buff zed because he was kinda out of the meta and leave cassiopeia in the dust for more than 1 year .

Whats wrong with cassiopeia is her passive wich was a argument to nerf her ALL of her numbers , i think it must be great in return of all her nerfs but no : her passive is pure bullshit Just numbers in compensation of her early / mid game nerf ... hmm no they didnt nerf it , they totaly smashed it , for what ? a hyper carry late game . Wich is realy dissapointing because its rare to reach late game and even if you can , you would be rly surprised because she is a immobile mage ( you could say : yeah but just care about position ) but NO you cant because all her dmg is concentrated in her low range monocible spell ; WICH IS EXTREMELY WRONG FOR A MAGE + try to compare her dmg to any other hyper carry or basic mage as zyra or brand . Lets not forget how cassio used to be a high risk high reward champions , now you get nothing by taking risks she is just pure garbage . she desperately needs some buffs, her lategame winrate should be at 55% at least if she is supposed to be a hypercarry. They shifted 90% of her Dmg onto her E and took a gigantic chunk out of her Q and W importance. If you want to know more here you go -> http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/ofg4G7hq-the-problem-with-cassiopeia-indepth-by-a-cassiopeia-main-since-release

Her design ; http://i.imgur.com/328219m.jpg?1 they did a good job with textures but they totaly fcked up the tail and over sexualised her boobs holy shit she looks like a slut , 3 years without any new skin ... Lets not forget her interresting lore ( 6 lignes ) , is that supposed to be a rework ?

So now that the preseason is done with all your " projects " as arguments to not fix cassiopeia , Cassio deserves some buffs to survive in this meta , Could you make it : the lightest effort we asked for months . Can you allow us to play a decent champ till you re-rework her passive and make her less twin fangs dependant. It never felt so bad to play cassio I doubt if will ever try to pick her in s6 , in her current state she needs AT LEAST her sustain back and more dmg on her poisons. Its been more than 1 year that we wait ,she was kinda viable but now you cant ignore her anymore because she is in her worst state , she is about to be the Urgot 2.0

Edit : buffs idea : Noxious Blast: 45% ap / 50 % / 55 % / 60% imo this is one of the best buff she could receive her w is really useless , its just a set up i think it should deal more dmg if you stand in it for a long time or soemthing like that ; maybe just buff the slow ? or add a new mechanic because this spell is just a set up ; i mean people could stand in it for the full duration without being worried her sustain is not even noticable , 0,06 % is really not enough her current sustain will never save her in team fight , riot shoulf buff it

34 Comments

Dominick Destine1/9/2016, 6:01:21 PM14 votes

No but seriously; Cassiopeia is practically unplayable... put her against a Zed, a Talon, a Brand, a Lux or even a Malzahar, TF and Gangplank, she gets railed hard. She needs a complete rework; a REAL rework.

She is terrible in lane and gets even worse out of it.

holy shit she looks like a slut

ZMOG!!! MISOGYNER !!! (The feminist reaction)

The intelligent man's reaction; What's wrong with her having a nice rack? she's meant to be a seductress.

Canastus1/9/2016, 6:09:38 PM7 votes

Yeah, her powercurve is quite the joke if you compare it to other champions out there who have a far better early to midgame while also staying strong throughout the game. Meanwhile Cassiopeia starts at a 39% winrate and works her way up to a disappointing 50% winrate if she somehow manages to stall the game out for 40 minutes which takes a miracle nowadays. And don't get me started on her pitiful damage and sustain compared to several other champions who aren't even considered hypercarries.

Even then she hardly can do anything due to inherent handicaps like her lack of range, immobility and extreme squishyness. Her manacosts are too overbearing, even at lategame where she usually has a fully stacked Seraph's she still goes oom rather quickly. She desperately needs to see some buffs in either her mana or power department, I don't see any other way to make her work right now until that second rework finally happens.

Valhala Warior311/9/2016, 5:58:35 PM7 votes

yeah cassiopeia rly needs to be looked at , idk what is doing riot

VictoryDance961/9/2016, 6:07:50 PM4 votes

I will always play Cassiopeia... and I will always love the way she is... if you carry with her then you are worthy of higher levels of League.

She is difficult but she is still the highest DPS champ late game if you don't stink early game. So much power should not be buffed...

Vistha Kai1/9/2016, 7:25:22 PM3 votes

Riot: Give us a moment, we need to manhandle Mordekaiser and your preseason some more.

Nagma is back1/9/2016, 6:01:14 PM3 votes

Oh yeah , the lore is just dissapointing , im a new player i played cassio once and it sucked

Cosnirak1/9/2016, 6:35:50 PM3 votes

The quality of the Cass QQ threads continues to decline... -_- At least this one has an actual side by side of her desperado skin I guess.

ModWulf Helhammer1/9/2016, 6:38:38 PM2 votes

I can't say a thing about Cass's gameplay (never played her), but the lore was more fleshed out in the Shurima event, and Riot has said that Shurima's lore isn't finished (hence most of the champs still have only the short form bios. She will get the full version in time, just like the shadow isles and BW champs.

As for her appearance in the desperada skin, that's just because of the higher quality textures; they didn't change anything about the model (she still has the same chest as before, but you can see it better now.)

Transgressor1/9/2016, 7:26:01 PM2 votes

We will talk about one of the " reworked " champs from our beloved rioters , the one who got his lore ; gameplay ; design ; identity totaly destroyed , the forsaken , the neglected from riot , the forgotten, aka urgot of mid lane KassadinKassadinKassadinKassadinKassadinKassadinKassadinKassadin

Last time I checked, Cassiopeia didn't talk about silencing her mother when her kit actually had no silence in it anymore. Or the Riftstep. Talk about actual LEGITIMATE identity destruction. TWICE.

"But he is very effective on the hands of his mains" so is Cassiopeia. "But he is very effective in competitive play" so is Cassiopeia.

http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=d5%20police%20got%20me You got a fairly average, yet positive, winrate with her, and your KD:A seems good enough for me. Which goes accordingly to how her state currently is. Fairly average, inclining a bit towards good. Yet not totally crap and unviable as you're trying to make her sound, but not as awesome as she was.

But you have a great amount of experience with her, and you know what you're talking about, contrary to 90% of the morons in the Boards shit-talking champions they haven't even played once in Normals.

Oerba No Naja1/9/2016, 7:42:50 PM2 votes

Yeah , i miss the old cassio :(

AquariusGine1/10/2016, 12:21:46 AM2 votes

Cassiopeia needs a buff .. at least small one to keep her up with this meta

Slamurai Jack1/10/2016, 12:27:33 AM2 votes

I'm largely indifferent to the amount of Cass threads on these boards, but can you at least stop acting like you're bringing up some important issue that everyone is ignoring? Everyone here knows about Cass because we see 5+ threads every fucking day; you're not bringing anything new and relavatory to the table here. We get it: Cass sucks and deserves some attention. The Cass circlejerk is already fully erect; we don't need another long ass thread telling everyone everything that's wrong with her.

Doctor Jarvis1/10/2016, 6:43:26 PM2 votes

Seriously can someone explain to me EXACTLY why she's bad? Because everytime I play against her I want to throw my computer against a fucking wall. I get poisoned ONCE and there goes 1/3 of my health. If I ever try to fight her when I get poisoned I get out-damaged, if I try to run when I'm poisoned I (naturally) get out damaged, if I dodge both poisons and try to fight her, her Q comes up, she poisons me, and I get out damaged. I really don't understand it.

Arakadia1/11/2016, 12:53:50 AM1 votes

Her healing, if you somehow got 1000 AP and had your E maxed, would be 70 hp per E. Basically it's like 1 second of double regen early-mid game.

RyzeRework1/10/2016, 3:58:10 AM1 votes

Cass still sees more time at iem then Half the champions