7.19 mid lane tier list

Rins Thigh Socks··2 votes·2,484 views

Do bear in mind this is assuming that you're playing at the highest level of gameplay and you're a god at that champion, so it might seem a bit theoretical.

S tier – Azir, Corki, Lucian, Kassadin, Syndra, Taliyah, AP Ezreal A tier – ASol, Cassiopeia, Ekko, Galio, LeBlanc, Malzahar, Orianna, Ryze, Talon, Twisted Fate B tier – Ahri, Anivia, Fizz, Karma, Katarina, Veigar, Vel’Koz, ,Viktor, Vladimir, Ziggs C tier – Annie, Gangplank, Jayce, Karthus, Lux, Xerath, Yasuo, Zed D tier - Akali, Brand, Heimerdinger, Lissandra, Morgana, Swain, Zilean

S champions are either super generalist or the top tier counterpicks to the generalists, A's are champions that do well in the meta, but you don't really always want to pick them first. They're either mediocre on an absolute scale and do extremely well in the meta (e.g. TF is worse than Taliyah, but his ease of use keeps him higher up), or they're not good in the meta but they're generally really fucking good picks. The one tricks on these champions are usually gods (ASol) B tier are champions where you have to practice them to get good results but they do at least have one trick up their sleeve that makes them playable in the meta. C tiers are champions that usually only have 1 good, redeeming quality or are better suited for another lane. The difference between them and B champions is B's have 1 trick that makes them good as a counterpick while C's have 1 trick that makes them usable. D is short for dog champ

If you're curious, here are some explanations.

Azir - god-tier again this patch. Corki - not the greatest but he abuses Ardent like no other. Good midlaner for that reason alone. Malzahar - ezpz champ autoshoves and you don't have to be good at mid to win games Ryze - elo Jesus. He has varying degrees of success simply because his combos offer a lot of depth that you will never abuse fully, no matter if you're B5 or Faker. Vlad - strongest B tier champion but held back because everyone has GW. Also your play pattern is shat on by how much healing and shields everyone has. Anivia - never bad if you're an Anivia otp. Annie - by far the easiest champion to gain LP with but on an absolute scale she only provides one thing and it's absurdly predictable and easy to deal with. Also Syndra can throw Tibbers off her team. Jayce - if your name isn't Khan, don't play this champ. Also keep him top please. Xerath - Ziggs is kept up by his waveclear, siege, and zone control. Xerath has easier skillshots but nothing else besides damage and damage isn't necessary for good mids right now. AP Ezreal - best champ/waifu in game

As for low elo, a big point I want to bring up is for you guys, meta has far less of an impact on a champion's strength and most of it boils down to lane strength, teamfighting power, ease of use, essentially the champion's strength on the absolute level only. For low elo (Gold and below) here are the adjustments I'd make. Keep in mind this is for you if you're comfortable on your champion.

Lucian - C tier Syndra - B tier Taliyah - B tier AP Ezreal - SSS tier Cassiopeia - B tier Ekko - S tier Galio - B tier LeBlanc - C tier Malzahar - S tier Ryze - B tier Talon - S tier Ahri - A tier Fizz - A tier Viktor - C tier Vladimir - A tier Ziggs - A tier Annie - A tier Lux - B tier Zed - B tier Morg - C tier Lissandra - E tier

If you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask.

24 Comments

Linna Excel2 votes

No mention of Zyra hurts a little.

Rins Thigh Socks1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YeEv29Pe,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-10-09T16:16:02.897+0000)

No mention of Zyra hurts a little.

Zyra isn't a real midlaner I wish the boards would stop pretending she is.

jwebb01131 votes

just one question you put Lucian S tier in high elo in mid lane

when for plat + ( take it as it is that is better then 90% of the players ) he has a 44.33% win rate with a 3% pick rate and 1.22% ban rate mid

Rins Thigh Socks1 votes

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just one question you put Lucian S tier in high elo in mid lane

when for plat + ( take it as it is that is better then 90% of the players ) he has a 44.33% win rate with a 3% pick rate and 1.22% ban rate mid

Yeah Lucian is only really good when you have the teamcomp built around it but when you do he's by far one of the scariest lane bullies.

Midlane is largely based on who has lane priority and Lucian has priority almost 90% of the time because of his mobility and burst. His only real weakness stems of requiring an extremely specific comp (like that in competitive games).

jwebb01131 votes

i get that... and he was used in pro play as a counter pick to some short ranged mages... due to his mobility to get around them... but what is good in pro play dont always equate to solo queue ...

but if you wanna look at his stats for pro play http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/stats.php?id=50&tournament=ALL&season=S7&split=ALL he has a 41.8% win rate in mid with a 50% win rate at adc and a 72.7 win rate top

so even in pro play his mid win rate is trash

Rins Thigh Socks1 votes

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i get that... and he was used in pro play as a counter pick to some short ranged mages... due to his mobility to get around them... but what is good in pro play dont always equate to solo queue ...

but if you wanna look at his stats for pro play http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/stats.php?id=50&tournament=ALL&season=S7&split=ALL he has a 41.8% win rate in mid with a 50% win rate at adc and a 72.7 win rate top

so even in pro play his mid win rate is trash

He has a 0% over the last 4 games he was picked and yet he's still banned more (5 games). It's because while the champion is difficult to win games with, theoretically he wins lane over nearly every champion.

Also, to be fair he's also being picked in circumstances that aren't helping him. For example, one was Scout picking him. Into who? Faker. You just don't do that.

jwebb01131 votes

but this is him being picked mid at the highest of elos...

and him having a 41% win rate... why pick a champ that is hard to win with ?

Rins Thigh Socks1 votes

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but this is him being picked mid at the highest of elos...

and him having a 41% win rate... why pick a champ that is hard to win with ?

It's about impact. You have the potential to win with him pretty hard, and he's fun.

Same thing with Azir and Ryze. They had 44% winrates and were still top tier.

jwebb01131 votes

ryze in pro play has a higher win rate then lucian and i think is more impactful azir was flat out gutted for ever cuz of how broken he was in pro play / high elo skilled azir players , he just got a retweaking and is showing some dominance in capable players hands

Linna Excel1 votes

He's a low winrate in mid overall, but is very good if you can snowball with him.

jwebb01131 votes

so yi is a great champ if you snowball with him ...

Penns1 votes

ill just assume the ap ez is troll lul

pretty accurate then, galio and aurelion should probably be s tho and jayce at least a-b. Xerath Ziggs Karthus Lux Heimerdinger are also ~1 tier better imo

jwebb01131 votes

or we could look at a tier list that is compiled of data from rank games taking in to account pick/ban rates and win rates

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/platinum/plus/tierlist/

Rins Thigh Socks1 votes

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or we could look at a tier list that is compiled of data from rank games taking in to account pick/ban rates and win rates

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/platinum/plus/tierlist/

The problem with that tierlist is it only shows what's easiest to win with, and not what has the best impact.

For example, Gragas is a Gold-rated midlaner. He isn't really that good, but because of two high elo AP Gragas mid players, his winrates look a lot better than they should.

Azir is also rated too low since he has a ton of new players detracting from his winrate.

On top of that, it doesn't account for how easily one gets carried on those champions. Malzahar is shown to be better than he is but that's because it's easy to shove, ult bot, and let your AD carry with Malz rather than winning lane and then pressuring the map off that.

I love lolalytics but there are reasons its tierlist is kinda faulty.

Penns1 votes

Idk, Rakan, Taliyah and Ori in tier 3/4, along with basically troll picks like Fizz top/Veigar support. And theres no way Cait is the lowest tier adc lel

jwebb01131 votes

so cait...

has a 48.45% win rate a 15.33% pick rate and a 3.73% pick rate

for plat plus this patch...

what adcs would say she is better then ?

twitch? draven? trist?

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/platinum/plus/detailed/ go look at adcs by themselves

Penns1 votes

what adcs would say she is better then ?

Lucian Corki Quinn MissFortune ... many adcs now that she got buffed honestly. Her pick rate is almost as high a Sivir, Draven and MF combined and her win rate is still almost 49%.

jwebb01131 votes

lucian is bad ,, bot aor mid,,, corki is mid , quinn is top and mf is better she has a 50.64% win rate with a 6.67% pick rate and 0.30% ban rate

she has 2% higher win rate over cait.

cait is better then where she was, but she isnt by any means a go to must pick

Rins Thigh Socks1 votes

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ill just assume the ap ez is troll lul

pretty accurate then, galio and aurelion should probably be s tho and jayce at least a-b. Xerath Ziggs Karthus Lux Heimerdinger are also ~1 tier better imo

Galio is largely a counterpick to what's good. I'd never pick him into a Taliyah, per se. Sol requires too much practice and while he's good at roaming, he's competing, in the meta, with a lot of other shove roamers.

Donger blows mid. Especially when Syndra is so common.

Ziggs brings damage primarily and mids don't need damage right now. They need utility and zone control. I did put him a tier above for Gold and below (which is what you are, judging by op.gg), so I hope that made it a little clearer that I don't think Ziggs is bad, just in a bad meta for him.

Same with Lux but Lux is generally just a low tier pick.

Karthus is weird. On paper he's got too many counters, in practice he's outclassed. His ult is extraordinarily versatile but that's all he has going for him.

Jayce is a good pick but it's almost entirely as a toplane carry and you need to work around not having a gigantic meatshield top. Also I think he has too many tricks to master to be better in low elo either.

Penns1 votes

Yeah well Galio is a counterpick to everything tho, so.. xd

I think Heimer is alright, 52% win rate, pretty good cc with ult E and good mid game. Not that good but like C tier, same for Lux (just b instead of c).

I thought Ziggs was C, B is probably fine. I dont play on this account anymore btw, im reformed hehe xd http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Fizz%20Akabane

Dont think Karthus is C, he can be pretty hard to outplay with dat 40% slow and 400+ global damage to carries mid game aint bad.

Rins Thigh Socks1 votes

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Yeah well Galio is a counterpick to everything tho, so.. xd

I think Heimer is alright, 52% win rate, pretty good cc with ult E and good mid game. Not that good but like C tier, same for Lux (just b instead of c).

I thought Ziggs was C, B is probably fine. I dont play on this account anymore btw, im reformed hehe xd http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Fizz%20Akabane

Dont think Karthus is C, he can be pretty hard to outplay with dat 40% slow and 400+ global damage to carries mid game aint bad.

The problem with Karthus is that while those are great traits on an absolute scale, they don't mean shit on a relative scale. Karthus' damage, in this meta, gets blocked by Locket and he just doesn't do enough damage to squishies like the other battle mages, one of which is a pretty solid roamer (Ryze). I think a meta shift will help him out a bit, since that kind of damage is a lot better when everyone caps out at 3500 HP, tops, with 4 damage items on everyone including your Brand support.

Also, you don't really see a big shift from an absolute scale to a meta scale until around D3. Before that, it's pretty easy to run most anything, Karthus being one of those champs.

Penns1 votes

Id say if you get Locket with just Karthus ult before a fight its wurf, and if they save Locket till you die.. eh. Guess I just dont like playing against Karthus because there is no counterplay to the squishy mage that runs into your team and wants you to kill him xd

ARAM ZooKeeper1 votes

Its all about that mobility huh. Whatever I'm still banning Yasuo everytime

Rins Thigh Socks1 votes

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Its all about that mobility huh. Whatever I'm still banning Yasuo everytime

Yeah basically. Right now your best bet as a mid is to either provide tons of CC/utility or roam bottom and let your Ardent win lane over their Ardent.

It's a bad meta tbh.

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