So, now the so called experts are saying I should dumb Cho, Noc, Sej oand Soraka. But for who? Most of the meta champs I hate playing with and am not good with. What the heck? So, I am suppose to lose even more to get better? Is this the logic of LOL higher elo players? What insane logic!
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesIt's not that you should dump then completely, it's that you need to pick up some other champ so that you aren't dependent on only 3 champions. You can still play those all you want, but it really helps to have others.
Me for instance: my mains are Quinn ADC, Xerath mid. However, I have several other champions that I can do well on if I can't or shouldn't play those 2: Katarina, Syndra, Nidalee, (learning Vel'Koz), Viktor, Ashe, and Sivir.
So don't completely drop the champs you love -- find more. They don't have to be meta champs, several of the champs I mentioned are out of the meta, but that doesn't mean they aren't good. Try out some new champions in normals, and I'm sure you'll find others that you like just as much as Cho'Gath, Nocturne, and Sejuani.
Lyless1 votesIt's not that you should dump then completely, it's that you need to pick up some other champ so that you aren't dependent on only 3 champions. You can still play those all you want, but it really helps to have others.
Me for instance: my mains are Quinn ADC, Xerath mid. However, I have several other champions that I can do well on if I can't or shouldn't play those 2: Katarina, Syndra, Nidalee, (learning Vel'Koz), Viktor, Ashe, and Sivir.
So don't completely drop the champs you love -- find more. They don't have to be meta champs, several of the champs I mentioned are out of the meta, but that doesn't mean they aren't good. Try out some new champions in normals, and I'm sure you'll find others that you like just as much as Cho'Gath, Nocturne, and Sejuani.
All those champs you mentioned I cannot stand. I refuse to be an adc because I am to depended on a support.
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesMy examples weren't supposed to be champions you could try, they were simply that -- examples. You have to play other champions that you think you might like, and don't limit yourself to the current FoTM front page Reddit complaint champs; pick any champion, try them out in a normal, and just let it fly.
And it's perfectly fine if you don't want to play ADC -- I don't want to play support (1 because I'm bad a it, 2 because I don't like it that much). And if you don't like it, then you don't have to play it.
And not all ADCs have to rely on a support. There are plenty of ranged ADs that can go mid or top, as well as some bot that aren't dependent on a support (Quinn fits into all those categories). Don't completely limit yourself to a class because you think they have to be tied to another champion, but if you actually don't like the role, that's fine.
Lyless1 votesMy examples weren't supposed to be champions you could try, they were simply that -- examples. You have to play other champions that you think you might like, and don't limit yourself to the current FoTM front page Reddit complaint champs; pick any champion, try them out in a normal, and just let it fly.
And it's perfectly fine if you don't want to play ADC -- I don't want to play support (1 because I'm bad a it, 2 because I don't like it that much). And if you don't like it, then you don't have to play it.
And not all ADCs have to rely on a support. There are plenty of ranged ADs that can go mid or top, as well as some bot that aren't dependent on a support (Quinn fits into all those categories). Don't completely limit yourself to a class because you think they have to be tied to another champion, but if you actually don't like the role, that's fine.
the only one I like is urgot.
Illiad1 votesyou've named 3 out of 80+ characters, im sure there is one out there for you. take the time and learn them yourself, 
Just for a few you can try
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Tetsu Juan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YbO0nEq3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-03-15T20:15:10.806+0000)
you've named 3 out of 80+ characters, im sure there is one out there for you. take the time and learn them yourself,
Let's see Nami is trash. Natluis is far from the best tank, Malphite is not bad but not good with most team comps, Rek Sai is easy to kill, Cass isn't worth the ponts, Braum is trash., Zilean is a support, Thresh is the most overrated champ in the game, Tahm is the same Braum, I don't do ADC so Cait is out, Ez is boring, Ahri can be easily out classed, Shen lol.
Dryditch3 votesJust coming over from your other thread because here you've revealed the entire reason you're still Bronze 5.
ANY CHAMPION CAN CARRY IF YOU'RE GOOD ON THEM! Keep your champs if you want. Get so good on them that you can do your job even in a bad teamcomp. Put in the thousands of hours on Nocturne, or Cho, or Sejuani. Play them in any position possible.
OR, and here's a big OR.
OR YOU CAN FUCKING LEARN A CHAMPION THAT DOESN'T TAKE 10,000 HOURS TO MASTER!
The reason people are suggesting champions like Volibear or Nautilus or Malphite (Though I think you meant Malzahar) is because they're megatanks with simple mechanics that supply the kind of peel needed to defend your idiot ADC or Midlaner in this meta if you're actually the only one with a brain on your team.
EDIT:
Maybe if you're done being such a whiny baby about champions you can't stand, you might realize that you don't actually like this game, and quit.
Lyless1 votesJust coming over from your other thread because here you've revealed the entire reason you're still Bronze 5.
ANY CHAMPION CAN CARRY IF YOU'RE GOOD ON THEM! Keep your champs if you want. Get so good on them that you can do your job even in a bad teamcomp. Put in the thousands of hours on Nocturne, or Cho, or Sejuani. Play them in any position possible.
OR, and here's a big OR.
OR YOU CAN FUCKING LEARN A CHAMPION THAT DOESN'T TAKE 10,000 HOURS TO MASTER!
The reason people are suggesting champions like Volibear or Nautilus or Malphite (Though I think you meant Malzahar) is because they're megatanks with simple mechanics that supply the kind of peel needed to defend your idiot ADC or Midlaner in this meta if you're actually the only one with a brain on your team.
I have already put a lot of hours into Noc and Cho. I will never use Voil or Malp or Nautilus. For one I don't own any of three and two I am not going to waste my points.
ModWulf Helhammer5 votesSee this is your problem. Just because a champion is off meta doesn't mean the champion is bad.
A good Nami is amazing, ask people like Deep Terror Nami or RiotKatyKhaos. Nautilus is an amazing tank, even stronger now as a full tank then he has been in the past. Malzahar* is a good all around mid laner, especially against high mobility people like Yasuo or Yi, Rek'Sai builds like a tank and has regen in he kit, so I don't see the hard to kill, Cass is still very strong when you get time with her under your belt, Braum is a staple in the LCS, and a very capable support for almost any comp, Zilean can be played mid as well as support, and either he does excellently (also recently played in the LCS), overrated doesn't mean anything -- Thresh is a good all rounder support pick, Tahm is amazing as a support when they know what they are doing (again, look to LCS), Caitlyn is a good lane bully with a strong late game, Ez and Varus are great for poke comps (Ez has a stronger late game, Varus has better utility, one of the reasons he's see more in mid), Ahri is still as strong as and a good pick as ever, Shen is an amazing peel tank, split pusher, and tank duelist.
Lyless1 votesSee this is your problem. Just because a champion is off meta doesn't mean the champion is bad.
A good Nami is amazing, ask people like Deep Terror Nami or RiotKatyKhaos. Nautilus is an amazing tank, even stronger now as a full tank then he has been in the past. Malzahar* is a good all around mid laner, especially against high mobility people like Yasuo or Yi, Rek'Sai builds like a tank and has regen in he kit, so I don't see the hard to kill, Cass is still very strong when you get time with her under your belt, Braum is a staple in the LCS, and a very capable support for almost any comp, Zilean can be played mid as well as support, and either he does excellently (also recently played in the LCS), overrated doesn't mean anything -- Thresh is a good all rounder support pick, Tahm is amazing as a support when they know what they are doing (again, look to LCS), Caitlyn is a good lane bully with a strong late game, Ez and Varus are great for poke comps (Ez has a stronger late game, Varus has better utility, one of the reasons he's see more in mid), Ahri is still as strong as and a good pick as ever, Shen is an amazing peel tank, split pusher, and tank duelist.
Nami is too slow. I really don't like tanks so I don't like Nautilus. Malzahar is okay but he just isn't for me, I gave him a shot. Nope. The rest is all your opinion. I don't like or mesh with any of those champs.
ModWulf Helhammer3 votesHave you actually tried any of those champs besides Malzahar, all the ones you say are just my opinion (when they aren't, as I gave evidence for all of those supported by other sources, particularly when I play all of 1 of those champs)?
What lanes do you play? Because cutting yourself off from tanks takes out a huge amount of the types of champions you can play (and on a side note, if you don't like tanks, why then do you play Sejuani?)
Lyless1 votesHave you actually tried any of those champs besides Malzahar, all the ones you say are just my opinion (when they aren't, as I gave evidence for all of those supported by other sources, particularly when I play all of 1 of those champs)?
What lanes do you play? Because cutting yourself off from tanks takes out a huge amount of the types of champions you can play (and on a side note, if you don't like tanks, why then do you play Sejuani?)
I have tired every champ in the game on a different account.
ModWulf Helhammer3 votesSo you have played all 129 champions in this game, and didn't like any except for the 3 you mentioned? I find both counts on this story unlikely.
And you still didn't answer the question: what lanes do you play?
Lyless1 votesSo you have played all 129 champions in this game, and didn't like any except for the 3 you mentioned? I find both counts on this story unlikely.
And you still didn't answer the question: what lanes do you play?
all I do is top and jg
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesThen I'm sorry -- you need to find tanks that you enjoy playing, and learn them, even if the tank is actually an off build (see Tank Ekko). You are playing the two roles where tanks are most prominent, one of them being the main role for tanks at all. You aren't playing tanks, you are letting your team down. You can't solo carry every game; you have to be the front line sometimes, just there to soak up damage and peel for your ADC or mid.
Knowing your place in any given team in any given game is what will help you to play better and eventually rank up.
Lyless1 votesThen I'm sorry -- you need to find tanks that you enjoy playing, and learn them, even if the tank is actually an off build (see Tank Ekko). You are playing the two roles where tanks are most prominent, one of them being the main role for tanks at all. You aren't playing tanks, you are letting your team down. You can't solo carry every game; you have to be the front line sometimes, just there to soak up damage and peel for your ADC or mid.
Knowing your place in any given team in any given game is what will help you to play better and eventually rank up.
well I am just going to have to push harder with what I have. Because it's too late to learn new people. I need to climb yesterday!
ModWulf Helhammer3 votesYou are in bronze, are rather, stuck in it.
If you don't stop to realize that you are the problem, nothing will ever change.
"If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten."
Lyless1 votesYou are in bronze, are rather, stuck in it.
If you don't stop to realize that you are the problem, nothing will ever change.
"If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten."
You are telling me I can't use any of the champs I used. Which means I am going to lose even more games. This has not been helpful at all.
ModWulf Helhammer3 votesYOU DID NOT READ A SINGLE THING I SAID!!!
I said you need to learn more champs! Obviously playing your same champs over and over isn't getting you anywhere, so you need to change it up. Does this mean that you can never play your mains champs again? Hell no! What it means is that you can't rely on the same things to win you games, when they are quite clearly * NOT * working!
Lyless1 votesYOU DID NOT READ A SINGLE THING I SAID!!!
I said you need to learn more champs! Obviously playing your same champs over and over isn't getting you anywhere, so you need to change it up. Does this mean that you can never play your mains champs again? Hell no! What it means is that you can't rely on the same things to win you games, when they are quite clearly * NOT * working!
these four champs have kept me where I am at so, they aren't any good for me. Therefore, to move up I need new champs. They don't work. My main champs suck and I can't move up with them.
ModWulf Helhammer1 votesAlright, I'm done. I tried to give you advice, and you didn't pay attention to what I was saying at all, only picking certain points in order to say my points don't work.
I understand now why most people don't even try to give you advice -- you don't listen.
Enjoy being stuck at B5 with 0 LP. I'm sure it's just wonderful there.
Lyless1 votesYOU DID NOT READ A SINGLE THING I SAID!!!
I said you need to learn more champs! Obviously playing your same champs over and over isn't getting you anywhere, so you need to change it up. Does this mean that you can never play your mains champs again? Hell no! What it means is that you can't rely on the same things to win you games, when they are quite clearly * NOT * working!
all the champs I used have been changed.
Illiad1 votesbuild Zz'rot, never a bad choice when pushing hard [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
EcchiOtakuTM1 votesSorry but are you trolling:
Nami isn't trash at all you probably just suck at her Nautilus is the best tank atm Malphite is the most banned champ because of how strong he is in this meta currently Rek should go tank and focus more on setups and is def not easy to kill Cassi is getting her rework soon anyways so I'll let you have that Braum is literally one of the top supports to aid your team in most comps, Zil is an OP mid laner Thresh isn't overrated at all and highly powerful with alot of options if you're not a scrub Tahm was overnerfed sadly so I'll let you have that Ahri is not outclassed at all high mobility while having a normal mage's strength.
No comment on shen since riot decided not to allow his W to move the sword in 700 range of him, however from the ones who force themselves to use him he isn't weak at least.
Lyless1 votesSorry but are you trolling:
Nami isn't trash at all you probably just suck at her Nautilus is the best tank atm Malphite is the most banned champ because of how strong he is in this meta currently Rek should go tank and focus more on setups and is def not easy to kill Cassi is getting her rework soon anyways so I'll let you have that Braum is literally one of the top supports to aid your team in most comps, Zil is an OP mid laner Thresh isn't overrated at all and highly powerful with alot of options if you're not a scrub Tahm was overnerfed sadly so I'll let you have that Ahri is not outclassed at all high mobility while having a normal mage's strength.
No comment on shen since riot decided not to allow his W to move the sword in 700 range of him, however from the ones who force themselves to use him he isn't weak at least.
All this is your opinion. Some people like Nami and some don't. I don't. Some like Garen over Darius.
Your opinion is not truth.
EcchiOtakuTM1 votesThere's a difference between saying "I don't like" And saying that "they're completely trash". In case you didn't realize.
Illiad1 votesthe fact of the matter is you refuse to accept anything anybody has said to you in this post, Your opinion is conflicting because you are the so sure you are right and continue to refuse to listen to what people have said in terms of advice, expand your champion pool, expand your roles, if you cant do anything anybody has said except criticize what those people have said; They came here seeking to help you. All your opinion seems to be is telling others their opinion is wrong. you dont see that as odd?
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Tetsu Juan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YbO0nEq3,comment-id=00000000000200000001,timestamp=2016-03-17T19:15:51.217+0000)
the fact of the matter is you refuse to accept anything anybody has said to you in this post, Your opinion is conflicting because you are the so sure you are right and continue to refuse to listen to what people have said in terms of advice, expand your champion pool, expand your roles, if you cant do anything anybody has said except criticize what those people have said; They came here seeking to help you. All your opinion seems to be is telling others their opinion is wrong. you dont see that as odd?
because what you are saying doesn't apply to me.
Illiad1 votesThen you are lost and i hope you find yourself soon. Good day.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Tetsu Juan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YbO0nEq3,comment-id=0000000000020000000100000000,timestamp=2016-03-17T23:14:08.748+0000)
Then you are lost and i hope you find yourself soon. Good day.
what? What does that mean? You guys don't explain how to do anything? No wonder people struggle at this game.
BigRedMachine081 votesLet's see Nami is trash. Natluis is far from the best tank, Malphite is not bad but not good with most team comps, Rek Sai is easy to kill, Cass isn't worth the ponts, Braum is trash., Zilean is a support, Thresh is the most overrated champ in the game, Tahm is the same Braum, I don't do ADC so Cait is out, Ez is boring, Ahri can be easily out classed, Shen lol.
Nautilus is one of the strongest top laner in the game atm. Braum, Thresh and Tahm Kench are all good or decent. Ahri is a strong pick and she's always viable. Rek'Sai is easy to kill only if you build glass cannon which shouldn't be the case, plus she has a crazy map pressure. There is a very few comps where Malphite is bad. Don't pick Cassiopeia or Ezreal in bronze.
Yosuke Apperu1 votes[{quoted}](name=Tetsu Juan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YbO0nEq3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-03-15T20:15:10.806+0000)
you've named 3 out of 80+ characters, im sure there is one out there for you. take the time and learn them yourself,
One of the reasons I enjoy playing league so much is that there is literally a champion for everyone! Sometimes I forget champions exist though because I have all but four xD
Elisza Kitsune1 votesNami is not slow due to her passive and the fact she's a support. Have you SEEN Nautilus top? He's one of the most tanky top laners in the game with lots of cc as well. Malphite is good with many team comps and can do wombo combo team ults winning you many fights. Rek'Sai has pretty great sustain compared to some other junglers and although she's hard to use, if you use her well then she might as well win you the game from her ganks. I have gotten a triple with her in a 3v1 before. How is that easy to kill unless you are using her improperly? Nocturne in my opinion; although rather squishy, he can do very well ganks if you can land your Q to speed your self up as well as extra attack speed and his E can slow (Q lets him get close enough to you) and Nocturne's ult can make very good ganks if done right.
From what I've seen, if you like late-game champions with lots of dmg but can be tanky as well; try Nasus. If you can last hit and farm with your Q well then late game your lifesteal can win you many teamfights since his E shreds armor. You can't run either because his W slows. (Top lane Nasus try it sometime. )
4th Chiming Lamb1 votesWhat are you trying to do exactly? Your point was kind of vague. I might be able to help if you say what you're wanting to do here.
EmEx1 votesI am also kinda looking for a new champ to main but cant think of one, when I look at most of them I imagine they are boring to play.
Champs I enjoy the most also like 
I was thinking about 
, when I play against him he seems gay but maybe he is fun any suggestions?
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesYasuo is fun, but don't think he's easy. You are incredibly easy to gank and shut down, and takes quite a lot of time to learn how to play well.
Mecha MaIphite1 votesmy friend carried himself out of bronze with AP 
Mecha MaIphite1 votesits bronze
he could've gone on-hit blitz and he would've still done good
Calabok1 votesSo, now the so called experts are saying I should dumb Cho, Noc, Sej oand Soraka. But for who? Most of the meta champs I hate playing with and am not good with. What the heck? So, I am suppose to lose even more to get better? Is this the logic of LOL higher elo players? What insane logic!
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