I'm not talking anything huge, but q slight slow on his e would really help him since his main source of damage is his q, and his e damage is damn near impossible to hit since most people run away from you when you w q e. Otherwise I think he is in a decent place just super fucking squishy.
I don't think he's in a terrible place. The only issue I find is that he must build lethality to be effective, so his build paths feel very constrained.
By the way, I really like Press The Attack on him in the toplane - not in every matchup, but it really gives him a lot of bite in extended trades versus toplane tanks. (Electrocute is good too, Grasp is not terrible either.)
Make his Q have a higher scaling, give E more damage slightly, make the W more reliable as a stun and also change the R time to arrive to the same as it used to be on old Panth and we are fine
Maybe something really minor could be alright, but mostly I think they should just let people figure out his best playstyle for a while longer. His winrate looks low at the moment, but I think a lot of that is just because he's new and a lot of people are playing him for like 10 games then going back to their normal champs, just like with any new release. If he still has a 45% win rate for 2 more weeks or so he's definitely in need of a buff though.
Because he is not played in every normal right now... Maybe stop using conqueror rune as good start.
yeah rn he feels just like a poke champion that would instantly die early if he jump on someone and not even deal a good amount of damage in exchange. The single thing he can do good is to tank the turret while someone with an acutal good dps is killing the enemy.
His damage is fine, only ult need adjustment, did u saw his damage once he Empower his abilities? Stop being cry babies, actually finally a stable rework unlike fking brokenkaiser for hell sakes.
Everyone was complaining about how new Aatrox was useless at launch and then turns out everyone was just bad and the characters was legit OP. Too early to judge Pantheon.
Id say hes fine hes godlike vs any one melee that does not have a attack that can get past mobs just sit back toss spears they try to go in shieldattack wile backing thin jump stun they cant do shit.aka a top lane god.And if u are say mondo and have to vs a panth its pure cancer I have to say panth is now probly my 2nd most cancer ch to vs close first to the pure cancer yas
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Pantheon could use a skill floor
His ult is still unusable
He has 0 good runes, conq is shit. Why go aftershock when you got your E. Electrocute is bad, since you cant kill anybody anyway. Klepto/pta/phaseRush are the only decent ones.
nah lol
I think all he really needs is a lower cooldown on his W and E. Right now even with cooldown reduction they are really long. His Q is really more than enough damage but because the cooldowns on the W and E are so long it means Pantheon typically has to build almost pure damage because he isn't going to survive long enough in a fight to use the powerful effects these offer without just killing the opponent super fast. With a buff to those it would allow him to build tanker and do better in teamfights.
i agree. outside of a passive procced q, his damage is very underwhelming. His ult is also so much easier to dodge than the previous one, which i would have been fine with, if they gave it some ad scaling to compensate for how much easier it is to dodge.
