Adc crit changes 5k IE thoughts from a adc main.

deadmendontlie··3 votes·2,789 views

Yes the amount of stats the 5k IE would give are nice, and yay ADC's coming back, but the 5k IE would literally destroy the point of playing late game adcs, and call for early game snowball champs/lanes. It will also force a feast or famine play style where if you don't get fed, and have great cs you are useless at 20 mins if not later on. Which is still kind of the issue right now, but instead its like 20 mins which is reasonable. Adcs would be entirely reliant on who can perfect farm, and get fed due the fact that IE could be 5k gold, and force you to not pickup a item till nearly 20 mins. There would also be the issue that the adc who just got one item which yes it would be a big spike could end up playing into enemies with 2 to 3 items at that point depending on what they build, cs, and kills. Those are just my thoughts if they want to go the 5k IE route they will need to increase the cost of other items, make the item worth the wait time, or reduce the gold cost of other adc items. If they end up going 5k IE route they will need to make alot of other changes to the game to make adcs viable due the early game champs will such as assassins will take over. I don't have a clue what riot is thinking with some of their ideas, but jesus christ decide on how you want the game to be do you want it to be all early, and fast paced like you have been, or late. Yes I would enjoy adcs being closer to the state they used to be in , but they do need to decide on a direction to take the game instead of changing it every patch. Also I dont want the git gud comments, or the haha adc mains lol. Give me your opinion on the game state in general, and what you think Riot needs to fix, and which Crit changes are better.

8 Comments

Warlord Rhinark5 votes

Why can't we just remove Crit in general?

It's just toxic RNG damage amplification that's clearly been proven impossible to balance, given how it is either too strong or too weak.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

would take too much work

saltran2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AG3RTzNo,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-22T19:51:03.077+0000)

Why can't we just remove Crit in general?

It's just toxic RNG damage amplification that's clearly been proven impossible to balance, given how it is either too strong or too weak.

Because just removing crit doesn't solve anything, tell me for exactly what you want to replace it, how will you change champs that have crit on their crits and then we can talk about all the new problems that the nwe -crit- would cause.

Warlord Rhinark2 votes

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Because just removing crit doesn't solve anything,

Well it certainly solves the problem of futilely trying to balance it.

tell me for exactly what you want to replace it, how will you change champs that have crit on their crits and then we can talk about all the new problems that the nwe -crit- would cause.

I don't know if the game really needs a "new crit".

The champions that have crit oriented things in their kits can either be fine tuned to still work after it's removal, or be compensated elsewhere.

And even if the game cannot for some reason function without crit, at least remove the RNG aspect of it.

Make it so the crit items that previously gave critical strike chance now just increase the damage of your auto attacks by a percentage.

Essentially, everyone starts with 100% "crit chance" by default (if you want to call it that) but they don't deal any extra damage from normal basic attacks. Instead, you have to increase the damage of these basic attacks by building crit items (essentially, you're buying critical strike damage, if you want to call it that).

I hope what I'm saying makes sense.

ff 20 please ty2 votes

DONT CHANGE IE

Bears Dont Care2 votes

Where are you seeing these changes? Would be nice if people posted what they were.

boricCentaur12 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bears Dont Care,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AG3RTzNo,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-12-22T19:53:30.205+0000)

Where are you seeing these changes? Would be nice if people posted what they were.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/oA7EoIrf-crit-item-explorations

GFREEMEN1 votes

Too much in one item. It is broken on the Nexus Blitz map too.

If the items were sub par as you build then MAYBE but they are not.

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