Nimbus Cloak is so broken on Xerath...

It starts after a brief delay, not after an ability finishes channeling.

wtf do you mean its a joke? you take Celerity for that sick AP increase during ult :D

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That's the point, it's a joke lol

Tbh if u get celerity with it your first couple shots will get a decent AP boost ;)

ill accept it was made for battle mages but why not get rid of celerity and replace it with nimbus instead of taking ult hat out of the mage tree

You do realize it starts at casting of the ult?

sure it's useful on morgana but for TF it does jack shit same problem there as shen It does not seem particularly good on most mages

Your ult is one of your biggest threats as a mage Personally i would rather have the speed boost to get into position to cast it most effectively

I would much rather get defense or damage instead on champions like diana or akali since your ult already gets you on target at which point you burst so the extra movement doesn't help that much there and since people know where you are going to be (not on the tank if your iq is higher then 3) they will throw slows and cc your way so the speed boost becomes moot

Looks like it's going to be useful on vlad and swain and maybe morgana as far as mages go

It seems a lot more useful for fighter champions like riven or jax or renekton for example and some of the adc's like vayne and twitch and a few of the assassins Seems mostly like a bruiser keystone to me Should be fun on Nasus alongside approach velocity for his E have fun kiting that

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And these are only examples. But like it already has been said, keep on circlejerking.

The rune is actually far better than hat. What is some Ult CDR against the ability to

1. Be able to better reposition after Ulting on champions like .

2. Follow up after Ulting, good for all champions, but especially on

Bad on Ahri though. She already has ultimate dash which means ms is useless.

The big problem with nimbus cloak isn't actually the literal power. It's kind of okay on a lot of those champions.

The big problem is selecting it is mutually exclusive with Manaflow Band, which is near-mandatory for mages.

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I think there's a couple other champions that like it. Like Kennen (if he wants sorcery), and Morgana (if she can stand giving up manafflow band).

By and large though, yeah, it's primarily balanced/overshadowed by being exclusive with manaflow band.

it also doesnt help that most champions in general would rather have something from precision, domination, or resolve and movement speed is worthless if you're having to wait every 160 seconds for it and it's only for a few seconds.

well, it does look like they're changing celerity to be more loaded up for champs you get bonus MS/build MS items to get a real benefit vsthe nothing we get now, and are gutting the bonus MS it gives.

it's busted on Swain, omg lol. It's a great secondary on a lot of champs, but Fiddle, Ekko, Morgana, etc there are many ult-reliant mage-type champions who benefit greatly from nimbus cloak if your playstyle fits that way. Some people don't like that style, and it is harder to execute, but it's SO GOOD.