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Riot please respond. What are the conditions for success or failure for URF?

CominTowardsYa··2 votes·2,908 views

Since I am a huge lover of URF, I would like to know based on your own words, what are the conditions for the experiment of URF mode being a success so it can stay around longer, and maybe become a replacement or cohabitant with ARAM as a permanent mode?

"URF causes some people to stop playing League, but a lot of you really love it. So instead of killing URF altogether, we’re just gonna keep experimenting to find some healthier version of the mode. " -Riot

What will determine if this version is a "healthier version" because although people complain about the new changes, including myself, I still love having this mode around. I actually took a year off from League because I was so mad I heard URF was not coming back, and upon hearing URF was returning I came back, started playing again, and will continue to do so.

What are the conditions for the experiment to be a failure for this current version of URF? Do you have data and numbers to share along with the claims that people leave after so called "burn out" from playing URF too much?

If this is a fact and all those people who love it so much just quit the game, why can't we see some kind of stats on it? Maybe some of us could help in some way to evaluate the problem too, instead of just scrapping the mode and saying its bad, while confirming so many people love it, which to me doesn't seem right.

"Tell us your thoughts about Snow Battle ARURF—we’ll listen and apply what we learn to ARURF’s next appearance." -Riot

My thoughts are this: Bring back URF classic, and ARURF and see which one gets played more, and then tell us the difference. I would personally not like to see AR URF back, because the mode is annoying for the simple fact that you can't choose the champ you want.

Less choices mean less fun in most cases, so its not a better choice for a fun mode in my opinion.

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MrFawknSunshine2 votes

i get it people like URF and all the other random game modes. but if something like URF which take regular players away from SR the main focus of RIOT and the main game of LEAGUE then they arent going to let it be around for long periods of time or permanent.

i think at times like end of season into preseason is probably the best time to do it considering most people who have reached whatever their gold was for rank will stop playing rank and in preseason they arent hard focus on rank. so it allows a place for an alt game mode like urf.

CominTowardsYa1 votes

I can get an board with this way of thinking, as it does take people away from SR ranked and totally out shines it.

I think this is what you would call a healthy compromise for URF mode.

Bring it back at the end of each season for a week or so, then get everyone back into playing the next season, and even add those rewards for playing in the next season.

Why can't Riot implement something cool like that?

Afelers2 votes

I'm not sure what to believe even if we see those stats, they also said Nexus Blitz got old quickly and players eventually stopped playing it but that just feels like bs tbh since it's at least 10x less off-putting than URF and has a high diversity that makes any champ viable for that gamemode unlike this 'pick something obnoxious then roll your face on the keyboard and hope to win' stuff.

CominTowardsYa1 votes

Maybe the work needed to put Nexus Blitz together was a lot more than simply changing cool down timers and infinite mana bars which can be done in the Training tool.

Well as I would say this about URF because I like it so much, I hope they can bring back your favorite mode so you get to have your fun, I personally don't care for those modes that make you use gimmicks and take you away from your champs, but that doesn't mean other people shouldn't get to play the mode they like, since fun is subjective right?

Afelers1 votes

Don't get me wrong, I like URF with all it's simplicity and would also love to see some stats on at least which of the two modes the playerbase actually prefers so I placed my vote on that one. Personally I would go with URF over ARURF anytime. The main excuse of ARURF players was usually that they were fed up seeing a Garen or Jax every game although the same could be said about the random mode and iirc we didn't have any bans either.

CominTowardsYa1 votes

Yeah, that makes sense. Riot is trying to make a more "healthy version" so there are 10 total bans per game, so we don't need to see the same champs on the Rift, which should increase the overall "health" of the mode, whatever that means lol.

Another idea for a mode competition I was thinking is take Poro King, and Howling abyss without the Poro King.

I noticed people think the Poro King in the mode keeps the mode balanced from OP champs taking over, because the strategy used with the Poro king trumps OP fed champs, but I would still like to see which mode would get more players if those two were competing.

musixxal2 votes

urf weekends. you're welcome.

CominTowardsYa1 votes

Thank you. ( I wish )

Kazekiba2 votes

The problem with URF is and has always been that players get used to infinite mana and Cooldowns being extremely short and then get into a ranked game and everything feels like it drags, even when the game lengths are remarkably the same.

Thanks to URF, every class has excessive access to CD (not just tanks and mages, even ADCs get item 3508 item 3812 now, and supports cant NOT have 40% cdr without trolling.) and then you get items like ...

Well item 3285 600 mana, an above-average AP, and a strong passive on top of 20% CDR. In order to burn up the 600 mana, a Veigar would have to drop his entire rotation, sans ult, wait out the CD, fire Q 2-3 more times, and then E+W+Q+R. Oh but he has a blue buff so he actually just regenerated ~180 mana back. And he has his base mana too so he's not even at half mana and can do this again when his ult comes back up in 45 seconds.

CominTowardsYa1 votes

True, players get used to the stat differences, but how hard is it for you or me to play a few games in normals before we get back to how those games work and feel? I would say 2-3 games and its fine. Have you personally had a problem re-adjusting after an URF binge?

Lux Is Mai Waifu1 votes

URF does get old tbh, they would have to mirco manage it like ARAM if they left it in, or it would become Dominion 2.0 with the same champs in every game.

CominTowardsYa2 votes

Do you see the same champs in every game? I don't seem to have that issue. I see some champs more often than others, and yes I don't see a lot of champs, but the pool is so large I rarely see the same 5 champs on each team.

I see a lot of Annie Ashe Bard Blitzcrank Brand Akali Ahri Amumu Anivia AurelionSol Caitlyn Cassiopeia Chogath Corki Darius Diana DrMundo Draven Ekko Elise Evelynn Ezreal Fiddlesticks Fiora Fizz Galio Gangplank Garen Gragas Graves Hecarim Heimerdinger Illaoi Kassadin Karthus Karma Kaisa Jinx Jhin Jayce Jax JarvanIV Janna Irelia Katarina Kayle Kayn Kayn LeeSin Leona Lissandra Lucian Neeko Nautilus Nasus Nami Morgana Mordekaiser MissFortune MasterYi Maokai Malzahar Malphite Lux Nidalee Pantheon Pyke Qiyana Renekton Rengar Riven Rumble Ryze Shaco Shen Singed Sivir Sona Syndra Talon Teemo Thresh Tristana Tryndamere TwistedFate Twitch Varus Vayne Veigar Velkoz Vi Vladimir Volibear MonkeyKing Xayah Xerath XinZhao Yasuo Yuumi Zed Ziggs Zilean Zyra Zoe

Thats a lot of champ presence for URF, don't you think?

I do not see much of:

Zac Yorick Warwick Viktor Udyr Urgot Trundle Taric Taliyah TahmKench Soraka Skarner RekSai Sion Sejuani Lulu Kalista Ivern Janna Camille Aatrox Azir Alistar

This is just 3-4 days of playing and I have see this trend. The champs at the top are in most games and the champs at the bottom are hardly ever in games.

Now I do see a lot of Zeds, Fizzes and Veigars, but thats okay, we can kill them even if they are a problem.

Lux Is Mai Waifu1 votes

yeah, but the longer it's out, the less people will play random champs to try them out. this is just the 1 week effect

CominTowardsYa1 votes

I haven’t played but I’ve been busy with other things. I need to play more before it’s GONE!!!!

Lux Is Mai Waifu1 votes

yeah, that's why people are trying things out still. if it got a permanent mode it would have to be ARURF or it would settle down

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