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Whats the point of removing niche items?

SgtAwesomeness·10/24/2019, 4:29:39 PM·53 votes·16,601 views

I'd understand if it was game changing-ly strong but its not very useful on most champions.

Is it about enforcing the Meta™️ builds? or is it too hard to balance?

If it doesn't bother many people then why screw the few who reliably use it? I mean you aren't improving the quality of the game but you're going out of your way to sabotage the select few

My internet is garbage rn and I've only see the boards post about it so if I'm missing something please let me know. Rant over

Edit- I'm referring to ZZ'Rot and Ohmwrecker

60 Comments

Harden Stepback10/24/2019, 7:02:54 PM18 votes

Riot wants everyone to play one style, fast paced one shot meta.

Saezio10/24/2019, 6:08:25 PM15 votes

I would 100% understand if they replaced them, reworked them.

But what's the damn point of losing more tank items and getting no compensation? Even if they are niche. Sanguine blade we defo need tho, and we aren't removing any of the other lethalities are we now?

Hammermancer10/24/2019, 4:31:30 PM13 votes

riot would never streamline the game, it's not like malphite is a squishy assassin now or anything

Oleandervine10/24/2019, 8:51:48 PM8 votes

item 3115 is a niche item. It's only taken on a select few champions (Teemo Azir Diana) and can sometimes pop up in off builds of other champions (like Kaisa).

item 3056 is not a niche item. I cannot actually tell you the last time I ever saw this item in a game where I myself did not pity build the thing. A niche item means it has specialized uses, but it still requires the item to be used AT SOME POINT. item 3512 had also dropped pretty close to no use, as I've only seen it extremely rarely. It had been previously nerfed into near oblivion, and the optimization of gear for champions who would have potentially used it had shoved it out.

Spooky Skeleton10/25/2019, 4:36:10 PM5 votes

item 3172 Never forghetti, rest in spaghetti.

But hey, enjoy your new broken lethality item, that's what tanks wanted right?

I love cowboys10/24/2019, 6:39:55 PM4 votes

Fun detected.

iPogoZ10/24/2019, 10:13:43 PM2 votes

I think it's just basic logistics, having an item that is legit never built seriously ever just doesn't make sense, it takes up space both in code and visually and usually these items are bought to grief, I mean I wouldn't be surprised if riot had a bot that auto reports anyone who builds omwreaker for griefing.

Literal IRL Tree10/24/2019, 6:33:48 PM2 votes

Niche /=/ Worthless item MAYBE 1-2 champs buy situationally

Mordistar10/24/2019, 9:45:51 PM2 votes

They aren't niche items, they are just non-existent in play. Who builds ohmwrecker under any circumstance other than someone whos trolling? ZZ'Rot gives no stats for its cost to make up for the amazing active it has, except its active is actually garbage... Both of these items are only purchased and shown to be effective when you are winning (and would just be more effective to purchase an actual item), and both items show to still produce a loss when losing. They have incredibly situational actives that nobody cares enough to go out of their way to get.

So just like other items in the past, goodbye useless and broken items with no redeemable factors.

I say Facts10/25/2019, 1:06:25 AM2 votes

Just like season 9, they want to make sure the right click marksmen will own the game, and give assassins the ability to snowball hard without being shut down. Riot wants the game to be 1 shot game mode, and I hate to admit it but it's true Unless they change their mind and respect the tank mains, but we never know if they'll do that. Remember, they will do the impossible to make more money for their company, which means, by allowing the assassins and marksmen to have all the space and safety they want will eventually force the worlds to have such a quick rushy games, and that's their main goal They want the WORLDS to have an easy 1 shot kills lucky matches, so no more skills required.

Hayaishi210/25/2019, 6:03:24 PM1 votes

Who knows the reason why Riot does anything these days

GripaAviara10/25/2019, 9:39:33 PM1 votes

Ohmwrecher had his niche. Like a 3 Assasin team comp vs a turtle team. Rare, but hey why remove the option? ZZ rot on the other hand, it was a decent item for tanks that dont need mana to pus.

Such items add depth, even if a little and since they already are there why remove them?

Smitty Manjensen10/26/2019, 12:17:51 AM1 votes

If there was an item that cost 5000 gold and literally didn't give any stats, people would still complain if Riot would remove that item.

Lovelle10/26/2019, 10:37:13 PM1 votes

That's how Rito James does things. It's the same approach they take with champions and game modes as well. If only a small minority uses said thing, it's basically the same as no one using it (in their eyes) and deserves to be removed.

RIP Sanguine Blade, Madred's Bloodrazor, Zephyr.

I enjoyed these items on Trundle, one of the few champs these items were great on, and right now his itemization is lackluster at best.