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Cassiopeia rework 2016 (mid season)

My Names Gumbas··7 votes·4,112 views
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Ah...cassiopeia...shes bad right now,from double stacking item 3089 to freaking 4 movespeed per level? the extra space for another item is very very good,but,her scales are BAD...SOOOOOO BAD...the only reason she worked out is because she had sooooo much ap...so much uneeded ap,so she could work out with those scales... lets talk about her W,why it dont empower your E anymore? you made this ability just so its gonna be cool or something? oh and its just me or it cannot be cast over walls? and now her E...so its still spamble...its killing your mana bar...it deal 0 damage without poision...even with poision you cant kill anyone before you get oneshot because shes so slow...yeah i just said slow...4 movespeed per level aint getting you anywhere...

im not even kidding riot...shes under power as hell right now...just buff her scale and make her W empower her E...so she can at least have any chance to not become. Yorick

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xxxMadLionxxx3 votes

I've been saying this but no one believes me. She lost a lot of power with the rework but everyone is so memorized by her new W they fail to see it.

her E burns mana with no damage it target is not poisoned and now needs CDR to get it decent. she no longer gets 30 percent ap and no more 15 magic pen from boots. 6 items is harder to get than fully stacking her old passive.

All of this so she can keep a fancy unreliable W.

RogueWill1 votes

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I've been saying this but no one believes me. She lost a lot of power with the rework but everyone is so memorized by her new W they fail to see it.

her E burns mana with no damage it target is not poisoned and now needs CDR to get it decent. she no longer gets 30 percent ap and no more 15 magic pen from boots. 6 items is harder to get than fully stacking her old passive.

All of this so she can keep a fancy unreliable W.

Man here is the issue, old Cass Passive will giver her free AP, free sustain and I believe movement speed depending on ow many stacks you had, so to compensate her base stats and scaling were nerfed so she will be managable early game (similar to nasus) They changed her passive but don't buff her soher early game is still trash but her scaling don't compensate for it anymore. Plus the movement speed per level is so bad....I'm one of those players that get boots quite early on immobile champion to compensate for the lack of dash and to better position myself. Pretty much at all points of the game I was slower than the rest of the enemy, I'll just rather buy boots and give me a cap on ms or something so I can sell them later when my passive finally catches up

Vistha Kai3 votes

What did you expect? That's Riot for you.

Trade power for a gimmick, that will be either worthless or completely overpowered and otherwise unnecessary.

Nox Shadows2 votes

I 100% agree i will never use her again this rework is some BS

FrankerX1 votes

nope her w cant go over walls.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Every, but the shortest of dashes can get you over Miasma.

Captain Aishi1 votes

people seem to forget that her Q's AP ratio got almost doubled, meaning that she's a lot less reliant on her E for damage in the early-mid game

Quepha1 votes

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make her W empower her E

It does...

My Names Gumbas1 votes

Nope...her W wont debuff like her W...so her E deal normal damage and not...well less bad damage lol...

Quepha1 votes

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Nope...her W wont debuff like her W...so her E deal normal damage and not...well less bad damage lol...

You are wrong. If they are standing on miasma her E will deal increased damage.

Oleandervine1 votes

I will take anything over that god forsaken stacking passive. Her ratios on everything but E were absolute horsesh#t prior to this update, and now she actually has viability in her kit if she doesn't max E first. The Shurima passive was just bad and gated her power - granting her passive AP because she had sh#t ratios and had to have the AP to actually be on par with other mages. The CDR was terrible too because she either lost the bonus on items or nullified it on herself because a standard build for her often ended up going well over the 40% CDR when her passive kicked it in. I like this rework better because it pulls her back to her roots and closer to what she was before that awful Shurima update.

My Names Gumbas2 votes

I have to disagree, Cassipepia was all about her debuffs and E, she was so... diffrent... no other mage (meta mage, not ezreal varus kogmaw etc) had a play style of an adc...and now puff its all gone shes just an under powered mage... Like jesus they reworked the only mage that didnt need a rework.... "Yorick pops up in 1 game out of 1000, riot reworkz cassioepia".

Bobloser35551 votes

I agree that she didn't need a rework but she is still good, the OP is 20 freaking 3 days old. She has been buffed considerably and is even stronger than the previous one. Try her again maybe you change your mind about the rework.

My Names Gumbas1 votes

Im not saying she bad (not anymore)....But this champion is not cassioepia...cass is that adc in the mid who use E as an auto attack ......the new cass...? Just a wiers champion with really no clear goel...But hey its just how i think...i guess peopls can work her out...

Oleandervine2 votes

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Im not saying she bad (not anymore)....But this champion is not cassioepia...cass is that adc in the mid who use E as an auto attack ......the new cass...? Just a wiers champion with really no clear goel...But hey its just how i think...i guess peopls can work her out...

Cass that was an ADC with a spell was not the original Cassiopeia. That was an experimental version that anyone who played her when she had her Deadly Cadence passive despised. Prior to the rework which shackled her with that god forsaken stacking passive, Cassiopeia was unique in that her poisons were lethal. No other mage in the game and since were identified as a primary poison mage, and she was equally dangerous if you focused on poisoning or if you wanted to play her with an E focus. The Shurima rework, which gave her the stacking passive, gutted her poisons to unusability outside of setting up E. Some people like the focus on E, but the majority of Cassiopeia players hated it, because we loved her poisons. That's what this current rework did (which by the way, was only a year and a half later), it pulled the overabundance of power from her E and gave it back to her poisons. She now has respectable ratios on Q, and while E can still be powerful, it is no longer the central focus that steals all the limelight from the rest of her spells. The new Miasma is... intetesting... but for old Cass players, the true old ones, this new kit returns her to her identity as a poison centric mage.

Bobloser35551 votes

Her E spam is still strong. How many times have you played the new Cass?

NostolgicSkies1 votes

i have spent the last two days spam playing Cassie and i honestly dont see many issues with her other then her passive needs to scale better or it needs to be removed. every cassie pick seems to be the enemy team rushes item 3802 straight intoitem 3009 item 3285 and immediately cassie spends the game playing catch-up. her E while i still dont like restricted range it should psn for stronger E's if i cant drop it infront as a peeling tool. and her mana costs are still out of control. no matter what i have to buy tear there is no other way to get around this. . .so if u want build versatility or a champ that can mold well to the game through items dont expect much from cassie. you will always buy item 3070 item 3116 first and if u dont you end up feeding. however she has amazing farm potential as long as u can keep every enemy champ from closing the gap, which you will never do. mainly i just think Riot needs to stop overplaying the "grounded" CC and realize her new passive sounded good on paper but its not working out in practice. either better scaling on it so match item 3009 around the same gold time people can buy item 3009 or give it some kinda of scaling state like Mpenn or tenacity to make up for cassies inability to get early boot stats i would be happy with some as simple as "cassies psn penetrates magic resist" or something,

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