wtf these annie changes

gatchi·May 4, 2016·183 votes·8,984 views

are really healthy and really fit with her character. good job rito [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

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THE RlVER KlNGMay 4, 201662 votes

Fml that cleverly designed clickbait

RavenMagusMay 4, 201628 votes

They left her Q/W alone, they made her E feel good to cast, and Tibbers is less "instant aoe damage" and more "instant bear".

I'm in love. Again.

woobeeMay 4, 201611 votes

http://www.trbimg.com/img-55272305/turbine/la-et-ct-chris-hansen-predator-crowdfunding-20-003/650/650x366

ArakadiaMay 4, 20161 votes

What did they do to her E? I forgot.

Sightless66May 5, 20163 votes

Shorter duration, but damage reduction instead of armor/mr.

Mickey DonnerudoMay 5, 201614 votes

It's official. Garen is secretly Annie 's dad.

ZackeryssMay 5, 201620 votes

Katarina is her mother! It all makes sense! They left noxus to settle in seclusion! oooooooh

crippler38May 5, 20161 votes

but then they're murdering their kid.... constantly....

ZackeryssMay 5, 20162 votes

It's called: Discipline. btw Shen vs Akali Garen vs Lux , JarvanIV ... Yeah, the rift is a strange place. But hey. You want your kid to become stronger? Gotta train them somehow.

NeminMay 5, 20161 votes

It's all because Summoners... oh

billxxMay 5, 20164 votes

Someone call chris Henson

RocketRelmMay 5, 20164 votes

They actually made a significant pair of changes to her W. No longer catches people out that 'flash' during the cast time. Also, Range Increase from 560-625. That's a LOT of range increase, and will by my prediction from having played about 20~ Annie games in the past 2-3 weeks in preparation for "LoL's Blink Dagger", be the most relevant change she's received.

Seriously, when trying to edge an enemy off the creep wave and force them to cs with spells, my w stun threat radius is often very narrowly not enough to safely threaten them. Having 65 more range leeway on this might honestly make her lvl 2-5 lane too oppressive.

gatchiMay 6, 20161 votes

Good catch.

RavenMagusMay 6, 20161 votes

Yeah, that's actually been a huge difference. The range increase feels like a compensation buff for the change in W being hard to catch people with - but overall it's still a nerf to W, as it's so much harder to catch people who are moving away from you now. You do have the extra range now to threaten your lane opponent - but if they step back at all you miss, and if they're walking away from you you have little chance to catch them with W now.

Have you checked Cho'gath's scream at all? I haven't seen him since the patch, but his shout had the same exact thing going on that Annie's W did (hits you no matter what if you're in the area when he starts casting). I'll be pretty upset if they removed it from Annie while Cho'gath can still do it.

Steel BlossomMay 5, 20162 votes

It feels a bit TOO good to cast imo. Hopefully they tone it down.

gatchiMay 6, 20161 votes

and more "instant bear"

perfect & perfect

PoisonedPeaceMay 4, 201619 votes

I played against a couple annies today, and my first impression is that the bear still does too much on cast. I'd like to see even more power loaded into tibbers post cast.

The new indicator for her passive is a godsend to play against.

ZLbSwAR23IMay 4, 201610 votes

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I played against a couple annies today, and my first impression is that the bear still does too much on cast. I'd like to see even more power loaded into tibbers post cast.

No.

There needs to be a pure nuke champion and that champion is Annie. Stop trying to make every champion generic.

chessmanMay 4, 201624 votes

Generic? "Burst mage" is generic. The change is oriented towards making her more unique, using the bear as a significant part of her kit instead of just being a flash-ult bot.

layritMay 5, 20161 votes

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Generic? "Burst mage" is generic. The change is oriented towards making her more unique, using the bear as a significant part of her kit instead of just being a flash-ult bot.

The problem here is that micro management and controling non-champion units is done so poorly that you can't rely on it as your primary source of damage.

underscores222May 5, 20163 votes

Annie rework incoming, she now turns into tibbers

ViddaxMay 6, 20161 votes

item 3070 Volibear

Commando YiMay 5, 20161 votes

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I played against a couple annies today, and my first impression is that the bear still does too much on cast. I'd like to see even more power loaded into tibbers post cast.

The new indicator for her passive is a godsend to play against.

if annie can't 100-0 which she can barely do at the moment due to the nerfs to her burst - what purpose does she serve exactly?

ViddaxMay 6, 20162 votes

You're thinking of old Annie, which I totally get. But now she doesn't need to 100-0 people. Now Tibbers actually serves a purpose besides aoe stun and "great for tanking tower" minion. So even if she doesn't instantly kill you, she does have some follow up, she is arguably even stronger in team fights thanks to Tibbers, and I mean, Tibbers actually does something!!!!! Like Tibbers was maybe a little scary before at lvl 6, but by 11, he wasn't too bad (I mean the pet, not the cast). Now he just stays scary. It's pretty cool, even when fighting it. It feels like I'm actually fighting a little mage girl being protected by a fire-bear monster. If anything, I think she needs to be tuned down just a little in the burst department because of how strong new Tibbers is. Or maybe tune him down just a little. Either way she is currently having her cake and eating it too. Just a bit too much imo.

MrBuffingtonMay 4, 20169 votes

I still want to see Tibbers running on all fours, tackling and mauling people ヾ(｡･ω･)ｼ

GaleWinUnleashedMay 4, 20168 votes

A Twist of Fate

MrBuffingtonMay 4, 20161 votes

That's exactly what I'm referring to lol

GaleWinUnleashedMay 4, 20164 votes

Definitely need that. The new Enraged thing for Tibbers does help, though.

MrBuffingtonMay 4, 20162 votes

The effect is great, I just want to visuals to match (or have some sort of greater clarity when Tibbers is enraged)

GaleWinUnleashedMay 4, 20162 votes

Is Tibbers ripping your face off not enough clarity?

MrBuffingtonMay 4, 20161 votes

I never really noticed when he was swinging faster tbh, since it doesn't look different than his normal animation, just faster. I figured there'd be some buff or indicator that he's enraged, though it might be difficult since he has his own aura plus molten shield, maybe too much visual noise, which is why I want animation changes, lol.

My Waifu VanillaMay 5, 20162 votes

His hands glow like orange or something from what I could tell and he runs at like Mach 7 to beat your ass.

ViddaxMay 6, 20161 votes

I did notice this, and it's freaking awesome, but maybe bigger flames or something? Or he gets a little darker or redder? Just something else to say, "Hey I'm scary, stay the f*** away or die." I feel like that kind of fits with how he's supposed to function anyway haha.

chipndip1May 4, 20168 votes

Killed her...

...and her bear almost mauled me to death. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

ZackeryssMay 5, 20165 votes

Its very thematic, yes? Pedobear be comin for dat azz

chipndip1May 5, 20167 votes

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Its very thematic, yes? Pedobear be comin for dat azz

Last I checked, pedobear wasn't exactly the protector of kids...

Craft ZeppelinMay 4, 20166 votes

RoA abyssal shield annie can take such a hard beating for a kid to be honest...

iltMay 5, 20166 votes

let's give her a FUCKING DASH!

Smitty ManjensenMay 4, 20165 votes

How are they great? I played 3 games in which annie basically does her combo and then suicides so tibbers can go ballistic on people, if that you consider a good job then k.

My Waifu VanillaMay 5, 20162 votes

Except Tibbers can enrage twice before she dies fairly easily in a semi-long fight. Flash ult+stun gives first enrage, using QWE fuels passive and then the next QW (like 4 seconds or so) gives you a stun and another enrage.

XyncMay 5, 20164 votes

Champion Reveal: Tibbers

rayvin400May 5, 20162 votes

I dont know how this is better? Im an annie main and I cant stun anyone with tibbers anymore. I don't know how this is good when I'm mid and the only way I can survive a zed ulti is to have my stun up and tibbers him under a tower- every time I try to stun it misses. I was good at aiming, there were times I could stun without seeing the champ- just determining where he went and bam stun. Now I cant even stun when I see them? I'm about done riot.