There is no reason to pick Syndra right now with Veigar existing

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Think about it:

Both have spammable skillshot q's. Except Veigar's on top of doing more damage (80 / 125 / 170 / 215 / 260 (+ 60% AP) compared to syndra's 50 / 95 / 140 / 185 / 230 (+ 60% AP)) also gives him free stacking ap for minion and champions kills and assists. Now you're sayign well at lvl 9 syndra's maxed q does bonus damage. yes, it does. Once its maxed it does (and I shit you not) 4.5 +9% ap more than veigar's. lmao, hardly a big difference, and gets crushed by veigar's ability to FARM AP WITH HIS Q. Edge: Veigar

Both have a aoe nukes for the w. Veigar's does more damage by the way. By a lot, courtesy of a 100% ap ratio. Well now you're saying syndra's w has utility in a slow (granted) and the grabby mechanic (pretty useless really unless you're contesting jungle creeps) AND veigar's w has the delay. Which I would give you if it weren't the easiest thing to land when you get stunned by that ridiculous stun or even just trapped inside. Also Syndra requires something to grab. Not the biggest deal cause she can just grab her q, but it's still a minus. Also plz let's not also forget that that 100% ap ratio gets especially ridiculous by veigar's ability to FARM AP WITH HIS Q. Edge: Veigar

Both have aoe stun's for e. except veigar's is much easier to land, AND while syndra's is a constant 1.5 sec stun, veigar's starts at 1.5 sec and scales up from there. Well now you're saying that syndra's stun is longer (granted) and does damage (granted). Except that syndra's stun requires the use of two abilities compared to Veigar's one. Edge: this one is a little closer. but because of Veigar's being easier to land on 1 and multiple people, coupled with an increased stun length, gonna have to give it to the little shit.

Both have point-and-click ults. Syndra's minimum ult damage is 270/405/540 +60% ap, but any good syndra won't use her ult unless she has at least 2 dark spheres out coupled with the 3 around her, so its really more like 450/675/900 +100% ap. So granted, Syndra ult _does _ do more damage depending on who is ulted. Veigar's ult does 250 / 375 / 500 (+ 100% AP) (+ 80% of target's AP), so so long as veigar's target has more than 500 ap (past lvl 16 mind you, this number goes down at levels 11 and 6 to 375 and 200 respectively) will actually do more damage. Which is pretty stupid considering while syndra has to setup her ult, veigar literally just has to press r. And let's face it, after level 16 getting 500 ap is not hard at all. Anything past that amount and Veigar's will do more unless syndra has to 3-4 balls out excluding the 3 around her (depending on who we're comparing agaisnt for Veigar's ult). And if you've ever played syndra, you know getting 4 out is HARD while playing in the middle of the game.

Edge: This one, ill say it's actually equal because syndra's isnt dependent on who she clicks and can do more damage than what i've listed if she gets more dark spheres out. But lets not forget that veigar's is easier to use and has the potential to do more damage. IS WHAT I WOULD SAY IF VEIGAR COULDN'T FARM AP WITH HIS Q TO DO MORE DAMAGE. Edge*:Veigar

2 Comments

Penguin Eclipse2 votes

There are reasons for picking her. But I'd argue she's never really been that good. She just gave the illusion of being good because she was a strong lane bully that got ahead and as a result did a lot of damage and she had an exceedingly good stun. But once they made her no longer a lane bully then she no longer got ahead and without getting ahead she suffers hard because she does not have a power spike at any point in the game. One could say she has a power spike at lv 9 but she has to already be ahead by lv 9 or she will be forever behind.

I like Riot's idea of making her passive actually useful. Unfortunately I don't know if they still plan on doing anything.

Abyssphere1 votes

I've already seen you make this thread and replied to it there, not sure why it's posted twice.

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