RANKED ARAM

SoHigh·Nov 16, 2018·4 votes·1,021 views

Please make a ranked ARAM for season 9!

9 Comments

Arcade LuluNov 16, 201810 votes

please no

OleandervineNov 16, 20187 votes

Having a ranked mode purely based around an easily cheated RNG system doesn't work. Luck isn't a display of skill, so therefore, ranked in a mode based on luck shouldn't exist.

SoHighNov 16, 20184 votes

This game is based off luck....1 man cannot win the game while 1 man can lose your team the game. ARAM tests your knowledge of all champs and your ability to alter any build to adapt to the comp of the enemy team.

OleandervineNov 16, 20183 votes

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This game is based off luck....1 man cannot win the game while 1 man can lose your team the game. ARAM tests your knowledge of all champs and your ability to alter any build to adapt to the comp of the enemy team.

No, the game is NOT based on luck. It's based on the capabilities of it's players, but not luck. At no point in a normal game does RNG affect your gameplay. It can seem like luck if your opponents or your allies display varying levels of skill, but that is not anything generated by the game.

ARAM doesn't "test your knowledge" or "the ability to alter any build to adapt" any more than a normal Summoner's Rift game. All ARAM does is determine if RNGsus decided to bless you with a composition that wouldn't die immediately to your opponent. There is NO skill involved in getting decimated if you got saddled with 4 melees and a Soraka versus Lux, Veigar, Illaoi, Leona, and a Brand. No amount of player skill can make up for absolutely shitty RNG that can lose you a game the moment it starts if your opponent has an entire team that can destroy yours.

SoHighNov 16, 20182 votes

You cant control who is on your team in SR, that means its luck based. If not..... please.... show MMR or ELO or show any part of the process used to determine my teammates and how they're decided. No? Because its mostly luck and RNG. Thats how you get a 30 mastery score silver 2 adc that has 100 cs by 30min. ARAM is fun, making it competitive would make it more fun. If you dont think so... feel free to grind SR till you get gold or higher and can actually play the game. Half the community is stuck below gold and is forced to play with boosted new players or smurfing zed mains with no life.

OleandervineNov 16, 20183 votes

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You cant control who is on your team in SR, that means its luck based. If not..... please.... show MMR or ELO or show any part of the process used to determine my teammates and how they're decided. No? Because its mostly luck and RNG. Thats how you get a 30 mastery score silver 2 adc that has 100 cs by 30min. ARAM is fun, making it competitive would make it more fun. If you dont think so... feel free to grind SR till you get gold or higher and can actually play the game. Half the community is stuck below gold and is forced to play with boosted new players or smurfing zed mains with no life.

You don't understand this. Luck and randomness, as generated by the game, such as via a random selection of what your team will be playing, is not an adequate way to have people display their aptitude with the game, because the game is kneecapping them by forcing what people play. It's also problematic because people can create ARAM accounts of the most popular, OP ARAM picks and cheat the RNG to slant the game in their favor. This is an instance where the game itself can be completely capable of determining if you win or lose the game before it even begins.

Players selecting their champions in a normal game is luck to you because you don't know what they're going to pick - but the thing here is that they are selecting a champion, not giving it up to the game to decide who they play. You are trying to compare people choosing what they play to people not choosing what they play and arguing that they are the same thing. Just no. The skill of your teammates determines how well you do in SR games, not what the computer decided to grant you to play.

SoHighNov 16, 20183 votes

Rather it's the computer or the random player choosing... this doesnt effect your lack of control over the decision, so from your perspective its random either way. Giving human players the benifit of the doubt that theyr are using some kind of logic deciding their champ is simply not correct, espicially in bronmze and silver... poeple play what they know without much future thought... and what champ most people pick to learn in the beginning is based off random factors like how cool they look.

I just got heim last ARAM game and i dont own him and he isnt free atm... so idk what an ARAM account would be if the champs are picked at random

MinardeNov 17, 20181 votes

First off, in terms of Ranked ARAM, I don't think ARAM-optimized accounts should be considered an inherent flaw so much as an issue to be addressed. There's ways to prevent roster-stacking. For instance, "unlocking all champs" is a commonly suggested fix. Both Summoner's Rift and Twisted Treeline already set precedents where ranked champion select differs from unranked champion select (i.e. Draft Pick versus Blind Pick). As such, it'd be perfectly reasonable if Ranked ARAM has different conditions/requirements/flow than Normal ARAM.

Secondly, ARAM very much does test a player's breadth of knowledge and adaptability more than SR does. The mere fact that it's possible to one-trick or just main a particular champion in SR, but not ARAM, shows that. Furthermore, while it's technically possible to use (and face) any teamcomp in SR, the meta serves as a de facto restriction on teamcomp variation. ARAM's restrictions aren't nearly as rigid, so players are exposed to (and must adapt to) a wider array of teamcomps.

Finally, I'll readily agree with you that luck has a higher impact on ARAM than on SR. With that said, I disagree on the extent to which luck decides games. Teamcomps are occasionally stacked enough to where the game is essentially decided in champ select. However, it doesn't happen nearly as often as people seem to think it does. Player skill and experience with matchups plays into it too (e.g. late-game comp exclusively building for late-game and losing to an early-game comp). Moreover, features like rerolls or the bench allow for stronger teamcomps, on average. Of course, this also relies on players recognizing the strengths/weaknesses of their current comp. Riot could go even further and do something like Draft ARAM, where players choose one champ out of several choices presented to them. In any case, there's numerous factors and options to keep ARAM from being a glorified coin toss.