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Nerf Conqueror

Ancient Dova··3 votes·2,678 views

Do i need to put into words how stupid conqueror is... It basically says fuck you to all tanks especially tanks that dont even do damage in the first place. I was playing Leona and i had 305 armor 389 with w activated and i basically died in like 4 seconds going against an Irelia... With Conqueror.... Like at that point whats the point of going tank if it is completely useless against champs like this Even with yasuo it is really stupid.

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CHEWYARMS4 votes

So then we go back to tanks ez winning lane since no other melee champ can trade with them top lane and then they outscale you anyways in 5v5.

I don't think anyone who doesn't play top lane understands how much damage tanks do in lane.

No thanks.

hotdogsaregud4ya2 votes

yes, being hard to kill because too tanky, having some if not great utility, AND potentially dealing damage is just plain stupid to play against.

Ancient Dova2 votes

Valid points i get it i know but it shouldn't be 20% Plus it sucks playing a tank that doesn't even do any damage and you die pretty quickly because of this rune.

hotdogsaregud4ya1 votes

You just have to remember leona designed for dealing damage although I have built her to deal unexpected damage to the opponents before. And even if she isn't tanky because of the conqueror rune, she still is always useful because of the cc she provides. Yasuo will never be able to lifesteal while under cc and will die easily for being squishy once cced. Is he fair? I mean hey I think master yi has been stupid forever. You think conqueror is dumb but yi always had true damage that rips tanks up like nothing.

But back to my point, it may suck to be cut like butter when intending to be tanky, but remember your strength that your cc is a huge thing. And also, stacking health rather than just focusing on armor helps if you werent doing already and if you were then continue on. Armor's damage reduction scaling diminishes greatly the higher you go up meanwhile health will scale very well because you get what you buy and it also scales with your armor that you already naturally have along with bonus armor you get.

SugeMinPikk1 votes

Some? Maokai Not great?? Maokai Maokai Potentially??? Maokai Maokai Maokai Maokai

hotdogsaregud4ya1 votes

I think you failed to read that i said some IF not great... meaning if they don't have some utility, they have great utility. I was trying to be nice because some tanks don't have much utility. If you consider garen or darius as tanks whether they are bruisers or not, they don't have much utility or very little cc. But then if you look at amumu, sejuani, tahm freaking kench, the cc utility is ridiculous

SugeMinPikk1 votes

I liked fervor better Jax

hotdogsaregud4ya2 votes

irelia is broken LOL

hotdogsaregud4ya1 votes

tank meta was annoying though dude, but like yeah conqueror on irelia is probably op. yasuo a lot easier. As leona, you can just walk up q and he basically gets rekt. Once he wind walls you just need to land that e or r but a right click q should do a lot against him.

Colton1472 votes

As there is really no point in building armor, the only option is to build MR to invalidate all AP champions, since all AP champions are sadly invalidated by a 450G item (item 1033).

Armor is currently a non-existent stat not worth purchasing.

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Beatrice falls1 votes

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As there is really no point in building armor, the only option is to build MR to invalidate all AP champions, since all AP champions are sadly invalidated by a 450G item (item 1033).

Armor is currently a non-existent stat not worth purchasing.

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Until you get a item 3135 which also invalidate MR (but before it I agree it's MR is a bit overtuned) Guess unless they totally change Conqueror and Void staff, building tank will actually feel useful...

Story For Glory2 votes

Conqueror was made for Irelia, it was the main reason why they made it in the first place. In Irelia's rework she lost her true damage, obviously something riot wanted her to keep but knew it would be broken, so what did they do? Just release a new keystone that gives AD AND true damage in such a short span between Conq release and Irelia release?

The entire thing is a disaster made to compensate for what they removed from Irelia, not to balance the game. Her entire rework only caused problems, even Zoe was less of a flop and disgrace, and she was made out from the scrapped old Nidalee they reworked because they could not balance Nida properly, and reused her concept into Zoe.

It was never about balance, we all saw that upon Irelia's rework release.

Aries the Ram2 votes

Just saying that if you build some lifesteal with conqueror, you destroy anything you want unless you get 1v5 and get chained cc, which doesn't happen since nobody can do ult and summ on the same person or they loose a teamfight. Now, conqueror is beyond broken, dealing true damage is actually game breaking. It's not for nothing that Darius, Yasuo, Irelia and Jax are mostly winning their games when they go conqueror. You've tons of hybrid dmg and you've true dmg too ! And conqueror has no cd ! If you proc it, you can have it for an entire fight until you stop attacking someone ! I even see some Miss Fortune and Draven going conqueror, and it was not designed for ranged at first. You can't go tank against conqueror, you'll die in 4 sec ( if they're not fed LOL ), you can't build dmg either, if they take some lifesteal, you won't have the dmg to break a single shield because you're not designed to do dmg. If you're an ap, you can poke yeah, but 1 mr item and you'll feel like you've no dmg, because hey... BRUIIIIIISERS ! I won't talk about beeing an adc season 8 since bruisers are on top of the meta and they nearly one shot them all. So, what's left ? An other bruiser with conqueror ! So basically, to have a chance against a conqueror 1v1 you must have conqueror, or get camped by your jungler and hoping that the other lanes are fine ^^ ! Anyway, this rune is stupid and unfair, most of the bruisers are beyond broken with that and if you can't tank anything, you're basically dead ( most of them are designed to reach ranged champions, so if you don't have any frontlane that can peel and tank for you, well, you're dead again ! haha ) Nerf this, that's all. End this bruisers retarded meta, and go back to the old "tank can tank, adc can kite and kill a tank, ap can poke and kill squishy, bruisers can kill the adc or the ap and tank can kill the bruiser or the ap !" Putting conqueror in this game just vanish the logic and make bruisers the kings of the rift.

ankoanko191 votes

Well its Irelia.. so its magic dmg, physical dmg and some true dmg. 20% of all her dmg to be correct is converted.

RileyReid4201 votes

Conqueror was the only Thing which could counter those tanks items. Now we're doomed to try to deal with Thornmail, frozen heart, etc.. in a different way now that conqueror has been nerfed for bruisers and buffed for mages. smh

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