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Leona

Ancient Dova··2 votes·1,359 views

Ok so i already know what most people will say about this. "She is a Tank. She doesn't need damage." Well poppy is a tank and she has damage. Voli is a Tank and he has damage that scales with his health. Then there's CHo'Gath who is a Tank... And one shots with his ultimate. What makes me mad the most is you are giving scaling on a champ that will probable never even use which makes no sense at all. Her Q should have an AD scaling because it is an Enhanced Auto Attack. The fact her Q at Rank 1 gives 10 bonus damage is so Laughable. Rank 5 it gives 110 bonus damage when at rank 2 everyone else goes way passed that plus their scaling. The fact that you nerfed the ap scaling is so dumb as it wasn't even that high to begin with. You give her a Skin with interactions of killing people when at that point in the game you cant even hurt a fly and you are super ahead. Now don't get me wrong i get what her role is supposed to be. But with all the armor pen items being a tank is practically useless as you cant tank anything at all anymore. Rage-blade has armor pen now another armor pen item that we did not need. They also can't make the excuse that her Q stuns giving it damage will be broken because Twisted Fates W Stun lasts for 1.75 seconds and does a shit ton of damage being able to hit 800+ damage. Most I have been able to get on a Leona Q if i am full ap is 700 and thats with 6 items. A Small buff in the scaling of her abilities would do wonders. Making her actually a more viable support because she wont have to depend on her team to actually get something done. Blitz has 100% ap Scaling hell even on his ult which is AOE. If he goes full ap if he lands a hook it is almost immediate death. Yes i know bruiser Leona is a thing and it is pretty good but most match ups you will not have the quality of lane phase. Also yea im Cardboard 7 what do i know... I don't play ranked much and i have been playing this game long enough to know things. Thats all i wanted to say. Just venting how useless a tank is unless they have damage. Specially with Pyke and his Execution ulty which is really dumb.

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Hotarµ3 votes

Leona locks down absolutely everything in her path. When she gets a hold of anything, you either burn flash or die. And all of that starts at level 2/3. She doesn't need damage, her strength lies in her consistency. She's designed as a support tank and does her job as a support tank pretty well.

Ancient Dova1 votes

As i said i know what her role is bit it comes apparent that her late game is trash compared to other supports.

Hotarµ1 votes

Her engage is amazing and can completely turn teamfights around. She could do with a bit of a love tap but her core is there and it's strong enough to make a difference in the hands of a good player.

PhearBunny1 votes

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Leona locks down absolutely everything in her path. When she gets a hold of anything, you either burn flash or die. And all of that starts at level 2/3. She doesn't need damage, her strength lies in her consistency. She's designed as a support tank and does her job as a support tank pretty well.

shes the most predictable and counterpickable support in the game. she doesn't do well vs competent opponents and is outclassed by Alistar, and Pyke by far too much.

Brahgo2 votes

being a support main as well as a M7 Leona main, i understand where youre coming from, but keep in mind, Leona in the hands of a player with the right skills and mechanics can be a devastating champ. I have locked down teams with her numerous occasions, dominated my lane and helped my adc to carry (as well as other roles). Sure, ever champ has their weaknesses, but i think its your job to identify those weaknesses and play around them. I see you've mentioned Brand, which ive played and crushed in lane. It's all about understanding her limitations and what she can do/cant do. I dont need her to be buffed, because with her engage and her lock-down, she would be forever banned or even nerfed back... So, my advice is to just keep playing her and learn how to make sick outplays.

Here's a clip of what im talking about... using her kit to make plays. Be unpredictable and always proc your W! [(https://youtu.be/4trNsGy7pF0)]

Ancient Dova1 votes

I understand what you mean i just want to be able to do more than just have to depend on the team. A simple change is all i want i just think the bonus 10 damage is laughable i would be fine with just a ratio boost or a unerf on her ratios. Believe me i have done my fair share of outplays

Brahgo1 votes

I get you... I guess if im being greedy, i'd love if Leona was able to proc her passive herself.... Would be really nice.

Ancient Dova1 votes

Oh yes i would take that over anytthing else it would make her passive useful or give her an actual passive

ZackTheWaffleMan2 votes

I'd like to see leona get some sort of AD/health scaling, so that I can go item 3748 item 3078 item 3053 leona top

PhearBunny2 votes

Also Leona isn't used for engage. Leona is a reactive support, and by nature reactive champs are not good.

She CAN engage, but its not reliable at all. Shes far more effective just sititng on top of a backline champs face, negating the possibility for a assassin or diver to successfully reach whoever shes protecting. But doing this, also negates Leona from doing anything, so...she just isn't a good champion, and that's why she barely sees any play. Yes im aware her playrate is decently high, but that's because shes the easiest most binary support in the game. Shes a default go-to for autofills or bad/new players.

PhearBunny1 votes

tldr. But ill say this. Leona is garbage and needs buffs.

Her Q should deal more damage than it does. and her E should have a barrier attached to it(If it connects).

Ancient Dova

I wouldn't go as far to say she is Garbage she is just in... Ok yea i can agree on that and i want her to be good as she was my first M7. I stopped playing her because of seeing too many Brands and Lux supports

Frosted Tips1 votes

Leona does not need damage. IMO she could benefit from a more support oriented change. I would like to see her W have half of its effects go to a targeted ally.

Ancient Dova1 votes

Then she would be a discounted Braum... Im not saying super damage here just something to make her late game more useful.

Frosted Tips1 votes

Well she needs something and Braum is more of a full disengage champion while Leona is a full engage shampion. Also having her own W and the W on the targeted allow apply her passive to everyone around them would be really nice for her.

Daddy ReTaric1 votes

Leona could use Health ratio if anything but other than that she is perfect. I don't even want buff on her as she will become a monster and get nerfed again..

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

leona is a support tank, aka a vanguard.

poppy is a bruiser/fighter tank volibear is a bruiser/fighter tank chogath is a tank, but with an execution ultimate, not a one shot, making him more of a juggernaut

comparisons are terrible because you're comparing entirely different subclasses of tanks.

plus unlike the others, leona is excellent at locking down anyone she wants.

though a passive she can proc herself so she can at least solo lane off-meta would be nice.

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