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Why new Veigar is no longer fun

Flay and Pray·4/20/2015, 3:56:14 AM·5 votes·631 views

Hi, I am ShortWired and while I am only Plat 3 I like to think I know a thing or two about Veigar. He has been one of my favorite champions since I started playing the game about a year ago. Recently he got a minor kit rework and this post contains my thoughts on this rework and what it means for the Tiny Master of Evil.

Balance From a winrate point of view Veigar is doing pretty decently, resting around 49% most of the time. After many games on the new Veigar I would go to say he is a balanced champion, but has some issues. These issues namely lie in his W and E abilities. So now that you know this is not a post complaining about his balance I will move on to my main point.

Why new Veigar is a flawed design Old Veigar may not have been the best design, but he had options. You could build a tear and sit back to farm up, or play aggressively using your q to poke down the enemy to try to pick up some kills but lose out on some q farm. New Veigar doesn't have these options.

Q Issues Since his Q is blocked by minions he can't poke down enemies well anymore. This new play style forces him to try to get a q farm off and hit an enemy with it at the same time. While this requires more practice and skill, it's much less interesting. This ability also feels like 90% of hit kit now! With its longer range, high damage, and q farming I find myself just mindlessly spamming it and going for a kill with my R, which leads me to his W and E.

The MAIN ISSUE His E may have more counterplay now and is arguably still an amazing skill, it now takes 0 thought to use this ability. You place it around an enemy and hope they run into it. Since it is no longer instant it is entirely up to the enemy to get stunned, which makes playing Veigar frustrating especially at higher elos and against mobile champions. This also makes it nearly impossible to land his W without allied CC.

PLEASE make him less reliant on his Q and make his W and E require some thought on Veigars part. I don't want to play a champion that completely relies on enemies making mistakes.

I trust that Rito will fix these issues if they deem necessary. I have hope since Meddler said he was a WIP.

2 Comments

BuCkeT SeiZureS4/20/2015, 5:23:13 AM2 votes

I completely agree with what you have said here. Idk if you are willing to, but would you mind giving an opinion on what I said here? http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/BdolV9Z7-meddler-veigar-is-strong-now-but-boring I understand if its just a bother, but I would appreciate any feedback (positive or negative) or other contributions/ideas.

DEN TEL0S4/23/2015, 2:44:27 PM1 votes

You forgot to mention how he cant do anything if someone jumps on him now. With the old Veigar you could drop the stun on them and get away. Now you can try to drop the stun on them, but you just get killed then the stun pops up over your dead body. The only way to win if someone jumps on you is to nuke them before they can hit you.