its crazy how powerful he is as a jungler. the instant he gets sated then rageblade the only way to beat him is to cc him to death. and even that is a struggle with all the healing he gets. hopefully he gets nerfed soon or at least the item.
darkmatchwaldo2 votes9/10 they build 
as their first items and are USELESS. They're so freaking squishy that they get hit my the tiniest CC and are blinked out of existence. My ban right now is ALWAYS 
. He's been my favorite jungler to play since maybe november/december but he's so strong right now that i'm not even going to risk the other team picking before i do. That motherfucker is going to put so much pressure on the map that even if your team is feeding hard you're gonna carry. Leave him alone in lane for 3 minutes and he's taking 3 towers and your inhib. Then when you send at least 2 people to kill him, he just runs away with infinite movespeed, and is back 2 minutes later. It takes team coordination and CC chaining to lock him in place for long enough to kill him which rarely happens in soloQ.
Xilixer1 votesudyr is god jungler. im surprised he hasnt been nerfed and that people play him more.
darkmatchwaldo2 votesThey gave him a baby nerf on the AP ratios of Turtle and Phoenix stance. Also with the 3% reduction MS on 
and slight gold increase to 
. Not nearly enough to hurt him though. People don't play a lot of him because he's not flashy like 
etc. He farms heavy and split pushes for days though.
I've been messing around with
on him if every freakin lane falls behind early and i love it. It lets me gank for my toplane, clear one side, then gank whatever other lanes need help faster. Udyr's only real downside after the new season is an early game jungler snowballing the hell out of a few lanes quickly and this helps prevent that. also gives him mean ass top lane ganks because they're usually melee which lets you fly into the lane to slap them with your Bear stance.
I literally just played a game where my top lane malphite died 3 times, my mid lane ekko died 5 times, and my bot laners both died a few times all before 10 freaking minutes. I bought , camped top, got malphite a few kills, ganked bot a few times, completed my 
and proceeded to turn the entire game around. We did a complete 180. I sat in top lane with refusing to leave until 2 showed up and my team crushed theirs 4v3 over and over and over and over. My 
hit powerspikes and my 
started doing so much work.
MY POINT BEING that i finished the game 1/6/6. My sheer map pressure is what turned the game around for us and got my team rolling. Most people wanna play and get a million kills pulling off sick insec plays. They want a K/D to show off and say "yeah i carried this games look at my score." wins through pressure and i feel like that's why he doesn't get as much play as he should.
WinBoat1 votesI don't ban Zhao because chances are, I'm jungling and will pick to spank him and their team.