my proposed ideas for irelia

Morgy Morgy··1 votes·873 views

just a few ideas i had to make her bearable (note im not asking for every single one to be done, just giving options):

remove the bonus attack speed from her passive. she gets enough attack speed from triforce and all it does is just make her early game stronger than it probably should be, seeing as how hard she scales late.

remove the random healing from her q. it starts to become problematic once she gets spirit visage, and since she can just slap q in fights with literally no downside, she gets healed for a stupid amount for just doing nothing.

put an actual mana cost on her q. she shouldnt be able to just dodge every single skillshot and not have to back. old irelia's q had a decent mana cost that punished her for spamming it, now she can clear entire waves lvl 2 just by mashing q and still have enough mana to all in the enemy laner twice.

remove the scaling on her w's damage reduction. it shouldn't scale with level. that's all.

make her mark only work on a single champ, once irelia dashes to that champ all other marks disappear. her q should be used as an engage, but the nonexistant mana cost and her stupid mark that can apply to 5 champs twice makes her q basically her auto attack.

lower the duration of her ult's disarm effect. it lasts so long that carries cannot attack a single time before getting blown up by irelia mashing q.

make her ult not mark. does she really need two abilities that mark enemies? all it does is further allow her to spam q in fights, accidentally dodging skillshots and healing for no reason.

these are just some of my ideas.

5 Comments

Kurt Hyzan1 votes

Remove Irelia

Existential Bard1 votes

I please hope you are kidding with this post. Irelia has a SUPER WEAK early game. This is the time you are supposed to shut her down with your jungler. Then after landing phase babysit her to prevent her from free farming. That’s how you beat her.

Morgy Morgy1 votes

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I please hope you are kidding with this post. Irelia has a SUPER WEAK early game. This is the time you are supposed to shut her down with your jungler. Then after landing phase babysit her to prevent her from free farming. That’s how you beat her.

i said irelia, not nasus. irelia's "weak early game" is very similar to yasuo's "weak early game" in that yeah, she can't really do much, but her kit allows her to be so safe that killing her is a huge challenge. she can also roam to mid to pick up some free gold, or tp bot. even if she's getting her ass eaten in lane, all she needs is one good roam on bot and she's extremely hard to manage. and what if the other lanes are struggling? what if the enemy zed is 2/0 before 10 mins and your mid desperately needs help to shut him down? how about a 4/0 enemy bot lane? camping top might put irelia behind a bit, but now mid and bot are suffering.

Existential Bard1 votes

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i said irelia, not nasus. irelia's "weak early game" is very similar to yasuo's "weak early game" in that yeah, she can't really do much, but her kit allows her to be so safe that killing her is a huge challenge. she can also roam to mid to pick up some free gold, or tp bot. even if she's getting her ass eaten in lane, all she needs is one good roam on bot and she's extremely hard to manage. and what if the other lanes are struggling? what if the enemy zed is 2/0 before 10 mins and your mid desperately needs help to shut him down? how about a 4/0 enemy bot lane? camping top might put irelia behind a bit, but now mid and bot are suffering.

Your argument is flawed. If all your lanes are losing, you can’t blame irelia for that. You don’t deserve to win if all your lanes are losing. It just means the enemy is better.

Poop Jelly1 votes

"Weak" early game is really arguable, but there's no deny the potential of power she has once obtaining tri-force and steraks. It's pretty insane, and she only gets stronger by the minute. I once went 3/14 or something at my first few attempts at Irelia and ended up doing so much work when I was supposedly 1 or 2 items behind. At the moment there's nothing I hate more than facing Irelia and Vladimir at mid.

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