Pick Order?

Lyless·Jun 24, 2015·3 votes·1,303 views

Who came up with this pick order crap? I mean why leave it up to chance. A random draw when you are playing ranked matches! That makes no sense! I mean is that for real or not?

65 Comments

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 24, 201510 votes

It makes perfect sense, how does it not? The only fair way to make sure everyone doesn't always get first or last pick is to make it random.

LylessJun 24, 20152 votes

You could just call out what you want. That would be the fair way to do it. But forcing people into roles based on a random draw is dumb. Like for instance, If I was forced to be an adc. I have no interest in ADC or Marksman. It's boring and it's just not for be. SO, why ruin a game because someone happens to be first and someone else happens to be last?

Nameless VoiceJun 24, 20159 votes

The pick order rule is only to settle disputes.

The proper way to determine who plays which role is still to communicate and cooperate with your team.

If you are not good at playing Marksman or don't wish to play it, then ask not to be given that role. If your teammates are decent, then they will try to build a team around the strengths and weaknesses of the team members. If they don't do that, then the chances are that they aren't very good at teamplay and you probably wouldn't do well in the game anyway.

KazaashiJun 24, 20154 votes

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The pick order rule is only to settle disputes.

The proper way to determine who plays which role is still to communicate and cooperate with your team.

If you are not good at playing Marksman or don't wish to play it, then ask not to be given that role. If your teammates are decent, then they will try to build a team around the strengths and weaknesses of the team members. If they don't do that, then the chances are that they aren't very good at teamplay and you probably wouldn't do well in the game anyway.

Everyone forgets that Communication is the first article of the Summoners Code.

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 24, 20156 votes

This makes no sense. If everyone picked at the same time and just called their positions, people would just autolock and not care like they do in normals. also they do it this way so you can counter pick. If everyone picked at the same time you could see the entire enemies team comp before you picked and no one would pick until the other team had or would just autolock if they didn't get the position they want because they called it second.

LylessJun 24, 20151 votes

I disagree.

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 24, 20155 votes

Well that's why you are bronze 5 and everyone else here is not.

LylessJun 24, 20151 votes

And luck.

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 24, 20155 votes

No, no tluck, you are bronze 5 because that is your skill level. If they moved you to silver right now you would get obliterated. Especially from me looking at your profile. You play a lot of nocturne, you cs pretty bad and you never ward. Your kda is pretty horrible and you build him like a bronze 5 would. Your win rate is actually much worse than most bronze 5's i see. but let me guess, its your team? because just looking at your match history here you did the worst on your team in a lot of these games and you were never the best on your team except for one game you did just about as good as your adc.

LylessJun 24, 20152 votes

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ZileanUltJesusOPJun 24, 20153 votes

you refuse to accept advice from anyone when its given to you. You need to ward. Nah man warding is over rated. you need to build nocturne this way. Nah this way is better, just watch me lose all of these games. You refuse to accept advice from people who are clearly better than you and higher elo. The day you realize that you are bronze 5 skill level and need to improve and it isn't just your teammates, will be the day you climb, but until then you are where you belong

LylessJun 24, 20151 votes

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ZileanUltJesusOPJun 24, 20151 votes

or i'll do whatever i fucking want kid. Enjoy bronze 5 noob

LylessJun 24, 20152 votes

you were a noob at one point too!

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 24, 20152 votes

I was never bronze 5 lol the lowest i've ever been was b2 in season 3. Your are bad kid get over it

Angry MonsterJun 24, 20151 votes

He is a noc main......... wtf

WinXOfPowerJun 24, 20155 votes

If you believe it's not Bronze 5 then you have to prove it. Stop acting like a child to people, listen to what they are telling you. It helps you improve. But, then again, seeing the way you type you're probably 12-14 so not much we can do for you since you're not going to listen.

LylessJun 24, 20152 votes

You guys don't help. I will just prove you all wrong. Since you are all against me.

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 24, 20153 votes

You are really proving us wrong rocking that bronze 5 XD

WinXOfPowerJun 25, 20152 votes

Dis kid.

AMYS GRAVEJun 24, 20153 votes

Well your opinion can be wrong. I'd be shocked if Lyte didn't have research to prove it which is why the player behavior team is focusing on ranked team builder as their main push to lower toxicity in games. Its also the reason why there is no ranked blind pick.

LylessJun 24, 20151 votes

Who says I am toxic? Why do you keep assuming things about me? You are guessing again Maybe your opinion is wrong.

AMYS GRAVEJun 24, 20153 votes

Who says I am toxic?

I didn't, but after reading this thread more thoroughly i am now. Some of your posts even got deleted likely because of just that.

Why do you keep assuming things about me?

Like what? I assumed nothing about you at all in my previous post.

You are guessing again Maybe your opinion is wrong.

again? that was my first post in this thread.... Also people autolock and don't care in blind pick, i don't know how you can disagree with that. None of that is guessing it is observation. You disagreeing with that doesn't really make sense. Your opinion on observable facts doesn't matter.

Pick order is the way it is because it causes less people to become toxic and overall it improves the quality of games played. Communication is key here, don't call mid, ask for it and you will get it more often and more freely with less ruined games.

LylessJun 24, 20151 votes

Some of my posts got deleted because LOL Forums plays favorites, and protects certain people on this board!!!

AMYS GRAVEJun 24, 20152 votes

I read them before they were deleted, they were deleted because you were being toxic not because someone out there is biased against you. Either way it doesn't matter because you are just here to vent and argue and are not ready to improve your own mindset and play. Until then...

Cheers!

LylessJun 24, 20151 votes

I play has already improved it's my dumb teammates who can't seem to hold a lane for 3 seconds that is the problem. But of course we cannot focus on the real problem because they board members are too lazy to research the real problem! It's easy and lazy to blame me. It's hard to put the blame on the actual problem.

3BearJun 24, 20152 votes

it's my dumb teammates

Have you ever considered the one thing that is constant in all your games? Because that is YOU, and if YOU want to improve YOU will have to focus on YOUR gameplay and improvement rather than blaming your teammates.

Enjoy your Bronze 5!

AMYS GRAVEJun 24, 20151 votes

it's my dumb teammates who can't seem to hold a lane for 3 seconds that is the problem.

I guarantee you that if you can improve your mindset, you will climb. You are blaming your teammates instead of focusing on your own play. If you can read the advice that people here are trying to give, you can improve and climb.

SukishooJun 24, 20159 votes

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You could just call out what you want. That would be the fair way to do it. But forcing people into roles based on a random draw is dumb. Like for instance, If I was forced to be an adc. I have no interest in ADC or Marksman. It's boring and it's just not for be. SO, why ruin a game because someone happens to be first and someone else happens to be last?

No. Calling things out as seen in BLIND makes people whine and cry when they are like "No I called it first!" "No ME!!!!" and so on. It doesn't work at all. Then you get a high level of trolling because someone didn't get what they called.

LylessJun 24, 20152 votes

But forcing people into roles they aren't good at is better?

SukishooJun 24, 20158 votes

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But forcing people into roles they aren't good at is better?

Shouldn't be playing ranked until you are decent in all roles. That's common sense of this game.

LylessJun 24, 20152 votes

I have no interest in ADC. AT ALL! If I am forced I can do support. That's 4 out 5. I will never do ADC!

DrCyanideJun 24, 20153 votes

Then stop playing ranked until ranked team builder comes out.

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 24, 20155 votes

This dude wonders why hes B5

SukishooJun 24, 20153 votes

Yup. Reading through here he believe he's better then B5 but continues to prove otherwise. So there's no point in trying anymore.

Dr PoroJun 24, 20153 votes

You can always dodge the match if you're forced into an uncomfortable role. It's not a crime. You should just not overdo it. Leaving the champion select gives you a short time out penalty in addition with a small amount of LP loss in ranked (3 if you dodge occasionally 10 if you do it frequently). The LP loss scares off most people, but unless you're nearly at your "dream ranking" (the ranking that you've been trying to achieve for so long and need a lucky winning spree to achieve because it's above your level), LP doesn't mean SH*T. Your ranking is purely based on your hidden MMR (which doesn't get a penalty). LP will always follow MMR with a lag. If your MMR is platinum level and you are bronze V, you'll climb to platinum if you get a 50% winrate for a bunch of matches.

Live2LetDieJun 24, 20155 votes

If your not confident in every lane with at least two champs then don't play ranked since there is a high possibility that your going to play a role you dont want. If you lose with that role then it is your fault not your teams that you weren't prepared.

LylessJun 24, 20152 votes

I can play jg , top, and mid. I have no interest ADC or Support. Boring crap.

Live2LetDieJun 24, 20157 votes

Then go play team builder. Ranked is a team based game and if you refuse to learn two roles that are necessary to win then your going to struggle.

LylessJun 24, 20151 votes

Did you not see me say I can do three roles? Or do you try to be an asshole who doesn't listen?

SukishooJun 24, 20154 votes

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Did you not see me say I can do three roles? Or do you try to be an asshole who doesn't listen?

LOL. Moving on to a real discussion now.

LylessJun 24, 20152 votes

Yeah the usual bullcrap you talk about on this board.

Live2LetDieJun 24, 20156 votes

Obv the point of my post was to complicated for you to understand so ill simplify it.

Learn all the roles, even the ones you hate, or enjoy bronze to silver.

LylessJun 24, 20152 votes

You don't seem to understand I will not play a role I do not like. Once again, I will do things my way and it will succeed

DrCyanideJun 24, 20153 votes

Then obviously your first step should be finding champions you like to play in those roles. That's the only way you'll succeed.

LylessJun 24, 20151 votes

Maybe I already have. Dumbass. Ask questions and stop assuming things.

3BearJun 24, 20153 votes

I have no interest ADC or Support. Boring crap.

Maybe I already have.

You're contradicting yourself. Either you have found champs for the ADC and the Support position that you enjoy or you haven't. Keep trying different champs to learn the roles better, stop whining when you don't get your favorite role every game, and stop insulting people.

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 24, 20153 votes

Then enjoy that bronze 5

Vistha KaiJun 24, 20152 votes

So, do you play all roles yourself? See, in the last 2 months I didn't play mid like 2 times and I'm at the same level you are. Funny, ain't it?

Live2LetDieJun 24, 20151 votes

I do actually, I call "fill worst is adc" every game I go into. Even then I still can win as an adc, look at my last game haha. Ok your at my level, are you saying you don't know how to play at least two champs in every role? If so then you sound like OP who will cry if he doesn't get a role he usually plays on, which is a typical plat player.