When facing a Fiora

Vesarixx··37 votes·2,566 views

Just thought I would point this out for anyone unaware that might be in this matchup, item 3140 will completely remove Fiora ultimate from you, no vitals for her to proc and no heal, not something that's going to be super relevant every game but it's good to know.

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MagicDragon30036 votes

I guess this means you've found her Achilles heal.

UB3R 1337 H4X1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

DocShephard10 votes

That's not how you spell heewhaagGHAHAGHA TAKE MY UPVOTE

Melledoneus3 votes

It's vital to take note of that. I sword to never make pun of anything like that again.

HeadHonchkrow2 votes

No.

TyRamos16 votes

So you have to buy an MR item to counter an AD champ, not to mention she just then autos you to death anyways.

Hyrum Graff22 votes

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So you have to buy an MR item to counter an AD champ, not to mention she just then autos you to death anyways.

Zed

ChaddyFantome1 votes

beat me to it.

Hyrum Graff2 votes

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beat me to it.

And got my 14 free upvotes :P

Sire Hippington2 votes

item 3157

Hyrum Graff1 votes

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item 3157

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Ionian14 votes

And armor items vs ap champs Veigar item 3157

IcyPepper5 votes

Hey now, you can always build item 3102

Vesarixx1 votes

You don't really have to, but it's something to be aware of

IcyPepper1 votes

But hey, the item is still useful against any AP champions on the enemy team, and any other cc the enemy team is likely to provide.

There's five enemies to consider, not just one :P If you look at it a certain way, it's an MR item that can counter both AD and AP champions rather than just AP.

FadedFreezy8 votes

Would Wukong's Decoy also serve as a counter then? I know it can remove Zed's debuff from Death Mark.

Vesarixx3 votes

I don't know the interaction with Decoy, if it removes death mark that is really surprising

Captain Aishi4 votes

one thing that always annoyed me is that the decoy is the actual unit and the real wukong is a 'new' unit when it comes to targeted spells... impossible to ult wukong as darius, since even with a pink ward already in place, it will hit the decoy the moment wukong presses W during darius' ult animation ; ;

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

Never knew this.

GrReaper961 votes

Thats because their is a delay when Zed places his mark, making it easy to dodge. In Fioras case its possible but you have to predict when she is gonna cast her ulti and Decoy miliseconds before that making it extremely hard

FadedFreezy1 votes

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Thats because their is a delay when Zed places his mark, making it easy to dodge. In Fioras case its possible but you have to predict when she is gonna cast her ulti and Decoy miliseconds before that making it extremely hard

You can take the death mark as Wukong and decoy at any point. I'll test it out with Fiora and comment the results as soon as I can.

TheYordleInferno7 votes

We need a ap item 3140

roflcopterssssss9 votes

then we need an AD item 3157

Vesarixx2 votes

Rammus Ok

EndlessSorcerer5 votes

You would not believe how badly some of them rage when you use that.

That or cry about hackers.

Vesarixx2 votes

They do the same thing when you block a stun card using Jax E or Yi Q, people get salty when they realize they don't have the edge they thought they had.

Auz the Ripper2 votes

Heh heh.... Spellshields are fun

Ariel the Cruel2 votes

Those aren't spells shields. Yi's Q removes him from play. Recent clarity changes made Jax immune immune to on-hit effects during his E.

Auz the Ripper2 votes

I'm very aware of that, I was saying spellshield easily cause similar reactions from people

FioraWillCarry2 votes

Cool.....good to know.

Fowus2 votes

I thought people already knew this

Vesarixx1 votes

Not everyone, I've run into people who didn't know the inhibs showed how long they had to respawn with a glowing ring around them either

Zhire1 votes

dam

DarthSpectrum1 votes

Or you can counter hr vitals with shields or some form of health gain.

If you take a look at her stats on Champion.gg her worst counters either have range, shields. or rapid health regeneration. Fiora's Q works great if she can close the gap with one cast, but if the enemy is out of range, she will not be able to retaliate without taking more poke damage.

As well, shields and health regeneration hard counters Fiora's vitals. They calculate off of maximum health, so shields and any health gained during combat is not included. This is why champions such as Sion, Mundo, or Malphite has such absurd win rates against Fiora while she counters other tanks such as Cho'gath or Maokai.

Vesarixx1 votes

The attack speed reduction also helps Malphite. This is more of a thing to keep in mind if you already have the item for other reasons and find yourself fighting a Fiora. Another tactic to use against her is to stand with one side towards a wall, she can't proc the vital since she would need to be inside of the terrain to hit you from that side.

Enrovy1 votes

nice tip, i legit didnt know that, good thing i dont go against fioras often

High51 votes

Fiora also hates staring contests.

Sire Hippington1 votes

the problem with that is the same as vs Zed: on tanks it builts in no really usefull item, and as a squishy it's 1300 g for no relevant stats vs her so it's a bad choice early in the game as she won't need the vitals to kill you 1v1 then.

Vesarixx1 votes

Yeah, it's not going to be great in every situation, but if you find yourself fighting a Fiora and you already have the item it could help you win the fight by knowing that it does this.

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