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Why do fighters have better shields than supports?

furret walcc··5 votes·1,928 views

Yas/Panth vs Braum/Shen.

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Saezio4 votes

Yasuo and shen don't even carry shields wtf u talking about? They have SWORDS

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DerMangoJoghurt2 votes

Technically Braum doesn't have a shield either, only a misused door.

The thigh guy3 votes

Because riot wants only bruisers/flashy champs to be playable.

Düff McWhalen1 votes

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Because riot wants only bruisers/flashy champs to be playable.

God forbid they simply make support spell animations flashier or something.

Saezio1 votes

I mean, they made a flashy support in pyke and for some reasons support players are complaining. xD

Düff McWhalen1 votes

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I mean, they made a flashy support in pyke and for some reasons support players are complaining. xD

No.

They made an assassin with cc and called it a support...

Saezio1 votes

An assassin support. Yeah. Pyke is a support. He can't solo lane unless you are like masters/challenger and do the HoB thing.

TehNACHO1 votes

Shen has three, and one of them is global, and teleports him across the map. He is excused.

There's actually been debates about Wind Wall vs Unbreakable and I believe the consensus is Unbreakable is WAY more valuable when you factor that the shield can be repositioned. Big deal especially the higher up you go. It was a debate but in my mind, Yasuo is excused for being fundamentally different enough.

As for Panth, he is a squishy melee champion without it. Pantheon also lacks the mobility and flexibility of, let's say, Zed. This is where the cohesiveness of Pantheon's kit is a huge element in this discussion and comparison. One thing that really damns it however is that it does not destroy Skillshots, putting it as an entirely selfish shield. Even if you can argue it's a "better" shield in terms of protecting Panth than Braum, this generally follows the logic of their classes since Panth is definitely worse at defending teammates.

Champion Skin1 votes

However Windwall does have one big advantage in that it works in all directions so if Yauso/his team is standing inside the wall there is nothing the enemy team can do to hit them with skill shots no matter where they position while Braum Unbreakable only works in one direction

TehNACHO2 votes

his team is standing inside the wall

You do realize how incredibly stupid this sounds right.

Malphite Orianna Rakan Right?

Pyke Nunu Amumu Right??

This is one of the exact reasons why those debates favored Braum. Moving the shield, even if it faces one direction, is far smarter than having your team cluster up behind the Wind Wall.

Champion Skin3 votes

is far smarter than having your team cluster up behind the Wind Wall.

I mean why wouldn't you if it benefits you (if the enemy is low on AoE or heavily reliant on Ranged AA or such) but yes if it doesn't then you can just not do it (As the opponents are still forced to wait 3.75 seconds, walk around or through it or disengage to deal with it)

Then again I guess it doesn't matter as obviously Windwall/Unbreakable are both useless

Alistar Amumu Camille Darius Garen Right? Jax MasterYi Nasus Rammus Renekton Right?

TehNACHO1 votes

Well duh, that's why this whole thread is stupid and Shen is clearly superior.

Juice1 votes

Why does support have better AA modifier than a fighter? Renekton vs Shen?

Jesi Oni1 votes

Since when Shen is a support by design? You can play Teemo support~ does not make him 'a' support.

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