Notice the lack of Burst Mage in that title? There are some full AP Champs that don't even have that much scaling.
I.E. an empowered fourth auto from Twisted Fate deals 120% of his AP, the same as Shyv's empowered E.
Wild Geese2 votesShyvanna isn't really a champion that fits in these class definitions neatly, as she's old and a pretty unique character.
But I'm sure Riot will make her an ordinary Juggernaut who only scales well with AD when they eventually vgu her.
BackdoorPrincess2 votes[{quoted}](name=Wild Geese,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GQkbJov8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-11T06:22:35.069+0000)
Shyvanna isn't really a champion that fits in these class definitions neatly, as she's old and a pretty unique character.
But I'm sure Riot will make her an ordinary Juggernaut who only scales well with AD when they eventually vgu her.
They've done small reworks on her for the last few years, changing what/how her e acts in both human and dragon form, changing how burnout works in drag form, the only problem the current version has is the fact that dragon form is as long ranged as it is.
When it was a triple breath instead of a mortar this damage wouldn't be nearly an issue, nor the fact that this one leaves the fire circle that almost garen-tees at least two procs of that also. Combine that with ludens (on a champ that basically scaled off cdr anyways, and an ultimate that is only gated by how much you can auto (hello q cdr) and you get an obnoxious jungler that can chunk you with essentially a karma R-Q from twice the distance, be in dragon form so that the enemy jungler won't want to contest a scuttle fight, and have it back again for the next gank.
I'm glad my gal is seeing play and that she has multiple build paths, but several "off-meta" ap builds were nerfed for being nowhere near as anti-fun as this is. There's a reason nid's spears got nerfed years ago (which coincides with why people were/are upset about zoe), and the exact reason that karma's R-Q got nerfed recently, AP xin was nerfed, AP trist was nerfed, AP GP was nerfed, and several others who don't come to mind rn but if normal shyv is having issues/underpowered, but ap shyv is doing really really well, maybe give her the master yi treatment of combining the two into a not as hard scaling ad powered version
Blue Shift1 votesIt could probably use a slight nerf because of how much damage it does, but I kind of like how you can play a champion multiple ways. I found it strange though how they hard nerf ap tryndamere, but not ap shyvana.
Jesi Oni1 votesShe is nothing next to Malphite and he is actually played more than once in a month.
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesLook all ya got to do is type "Juggernaut/Fighter/Burst Mage" simple fix
