I am not sure why I keep losing lane, fights, and usually cant cs.

Acemaster81··1 votes·1,327 views

I don't know what I am doing wrong, and it is tilting me so badly, I don't even try to climb because I don't think I could.

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xDogMeatx1 votes

honestly that moment where you think your powerfarming your heart out and killing your laner you would think you would have a CS advantage but somehow they magically have higher CS then you is what tilts me thats what happens in my games.

Acemaster811 votes

My problem is that I don't feel like I am even a competent player in general, and I really don't want to become irrelevant, or die 10 times each game.

xDogMeatx1 votes

i think its because league becomes too "normal" to you that you feel numb to the game and start making mistakes. imo. im not looking at your history currently. its just a text observation

Darkdemon6531 votes

Record yourself playing and show us the video.

Acemaster811 votes

Ok, but for some reason I cant use my last game?

Acemaster811 votes

Do replays expire the moment you leave the results screen? I thought they didn't. I will post it for next match.

Darkdemon6531 votes

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Do replays expire the moment you leave the results screen? I thought they didn't. I will post it for next match.

I spectated the Soraka game you just played. I’d like to see a non-support game, but I will point out some things I saw.

  • You have to stop randomly attacking minions. If you and your RAD are trying to push the lane, fine, you can hit the minions that aren’t being attacked. But you were just aimlessly throwing out auto-attacks and Qs at minions. If you’re under your tower and you’re trying to set up minions for your RAD to hit, that’s also fine. But given you said you don’t CS well, I’d avoid that until you’re better at it.
  • This is a Soraka-specific thing, but you need to max W first instead of Q in most matchups. Against Kayle/Ezreal, Q was probably fine since that’s not an aggressive lane, but I see you always max Q first.
  • As another mostly Soraka-specific thing, you let Jinx stay at about 66% health while you were at 100% for at least two minutes. That was really weird.
  • Generally, once you complete the quest on the support item, you can change your trinket to red. If you don’t because other people tend not to ward, I suppose that’s sort of reasonable, but certainly more dangerous.

I didn’t see anything else, but that was you as a support, so there likely wasn't going to be much to see (especially with an opposing Kayle as the "support"). Also, while spectating and replays are nice, it would be ideal if we could see you play from your point of view.

Acemaster811 votes

I tried saving the replay but for some reason it did not work. It might be a bug but I am not sure. Maybe you can spectate a later game?

Tailypo1 votes

u cant use replays from the previous patch

Acemaster811 votes

I can't download the replay from the match I jusy played.

Acemaster811 votes

I convinced someone to let me mid, matchmaking gave me support again.

Darkdemon6531 votes

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I convinced someone to let me mid, matchmaking gave me support again.

Let’s talk a little bit about CSing.

You missed some CS because you threw your Q and it simply didn’t do enough damage (but it was close). You should have a very good idea of how much each of your abilities will take away from the minion’s health bar. If you aren’t sure, you can simply left click the minion and look at its health in the top left corner. You should know how much each of your abilities actually deals. If you aren’t sure, just mouse over the ability and add the base damage plus bonus damage. Once you use an ability, just memorize how much damage it did and that won't change until you rank it up or get more items.

You also missed a few CS because you auto-attacked way too early. You have to pay attention to how your minions are attacking. For the most part, non-cannon minions will not change targets unless something forces them to. I watch each melee minion swing and I watch the ball of light of each caster minion attack. I know the exact delay between the attacks as well as how much damage they do (or more specifically how much of the bar they take away). I also watch which minions are attacking which minions. I also know exactly how long my auto-attack swing takes and the delay between swings.

I don’t know if those sound like a lot to have to manage to you, but I promise that those things are required for good CSing. I also promise that they become second nature and require very little effort once you’re used to doing it. It really is easier than it sounds. Even practicing in the training tool is fine. It won’t be the same as practicing against something that is trying to kill you (as well as having someone that can push the minion wave back to you), but it will be easier to get these fundamentals down.

I didn't get to see you CS under your turret, but that is also something that's very important. Melee minions are turret shot, turret shot, auto-attack. Caster minions are, unless you have a bunch of AD, auto-attack, turret shot, auto-attack. Those things, of course, change based on if they were missing health to begin with, but that's something you will have to assess in real time.

  • After your first back, you spent literally 33 seconds until you finished. You went back and forth with buying and selling items. You should know what you’re going to buy before you even press “B”. Opening the shop while backing can be risky, but it’s better than wasting all that time. Ideally, you should have your shop item page set up in a way that you can quickly access any item you need. You should have finished purchasing before your health and mana finished filling. Then, after you spent all that time, you spent 8 seconds walking back only to use Teleport.
  • I can’t speak too much to the Kat vs. Diana matchup; it’s simply not my area. Kayn certainly fucked you over a bit by walking into her and dying, though you could have played better. You did OK a few times to walk away from the daggers on the ground, but you were completely passive after doing so. Once she throws her Q, if you’re not near a dagger, there’s nothing she can do to you. You also simply didn’t avoid the daggers a few times
  • You use your abilities way too much. As I type this, I still haven’t gotten past your first death. You used your W three times just on minions. You also used your W multiple times while next to daggers to bait her to go in. That’s matchup knowledge, so I can’t say for sure if that’s good or not, but it certainly didn’t seem good.
  • The above couple points resulted in you having way less mana than you should have, which resulted in your easy deaths. Given that Kayn fucked you over again, the lane is completely over at this point.
  • I’m pretty sure Hourglass is a bad first item even against a fed Kat. I see you typically go Lichbane first, which is definitely not correct. I’m far from a Diana expert, but the standard that I see is Spellbunder -> Rabadon’s -> Hourglass which seems reasonable. I would at least do some research on the matter.
  • You put three points in your Q, then you put two additional points in your E, then you put two additional points in your W. Your skill order should be Q -> W -> E.
  • Especially against Katarina, you can’t be casting your E unless it’s during her ult. A huge portion of her power in her ult, and your only means of not dying to it is casting E. It’s true the lane is over at this point, but that has nothing to do with her being fed and you being behind.
Acemaster811 votes

Thanks, I wasn't thinking about how often I should be using which ability and when I should be using them. I had no Idea that my e stops Katarina's ult whatsoever. When I am in lane, it's not really clear to me what I should do with the wave or how I should control it.

Mortismo1 votes

Maybe discord and screenshare your gameplay or like share rofl files?

Acemaster811 votes

Okay, I could try that, what is your discord? I tried again with my most recent match and the replay is not in my files despite my attempt to download it

Mortismo1 votes

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