Revert Aatrox to prior "mini rework"

x Royal Solo x··9 votes·1,389 views

To start I'm a level 7 Aatrox, he was my first main champ and I started league in preseason S7.

I have played him maybe 3 times since his little rework, because of how horrible it has made him. Not saying he wasn't bad before, but the rework made him even more useless. The justification from what I remember was so he could build tanky when behind and not be to over powered when fed.

My opinion on Aatrox's prior kit "pre-rework" was this. He would need a constant stream of gold to stay relevant. He was useless in team fights except for his Q's knock up, which still was underwhelming. To me he was a 1v1 god. Perfect for ganks and split pushing. His passive revive was perfect for tower dives and jumping into a team fight knowing you are fucked. When majorly fed and with no counter items being built "Mortal reminder / Thornmail" or CC he could 1 v 3 with a little luck.

His rework made his passive a pain in the ass to activate, the attack speed stacks don't last as long and even building tanky he is still useless.

Now I know Riot has mentioned that Aatrox could get ahead and be unstoppable. Which is why they don't want to buff him.

But honestly what about every other fucking champion that can get fed and carry a game? Do they not matter? Just to name a few.... Akali Brand Camille Cassiopeia Chogath Draven Fiora Fizz Jax Jhin Katarina Kayle Kled KogMaw Leblanc LeeSin MasterYi Nasus Pantheon Renekton Rengar Riven Tristana Tryndamere Twitch Yasuo

My point is Aatrox needs to be reverted, he was more fun to play, he had the potential to get ahead and stay ahead. If he falls behind no big deal you can split push.

Now here is my expert opinion on a proper rework for Aatrox from his previous build. And I'm sure other Aatrox mains would agree.

Make him unstopppable (Olaf MasterYi ) during his Q. Make his Q knock up 50% larger. Decrease his w healing by 50%. Increase his E (AD) scaling and add a scaling from attack speed. Add an (AP) scaling to his abilities Jax , Or remove his R (AP) scaling and replace with (AD).

Changes to revert. Blood well, Passive activation.

#Aatrox 2017

28 Comments

PePsiLemoNN5 votes

He is way better and healthier since his rework wtf. As you said you only played him 3 times since rework so yea...

x Royal Solo x1 votes

Is that a challenge to 1 v 1 me as Aatrox? I accept.

PePsiLemoNN2 votes

Are you alright?

DarwinTheory3 votes

Aatrox is a very strong champion. Too strong. People just do not realise how potent he is in lane he is worse than Tryndamere. Tryndamere has to at least build his rage to heal but aatrox heals every 3rd hit which is insane.

The only thing holding him back is lack of motility but like Darius that is what stops h being game breaking.

Aatrox is really fine. Maybe too oppressive. Lane against a melee and you're laughing only pokey champs hurt him early.

PhearBunny1 votes

All Aatrox brings to table is early game lanephase power.

His split push isn't good His mid/late dueling isn't good. His team fight is possibly the worst in the game. He is a incredibly bad champ unless your team wins in 20mins while youre still somewhat relevant.

x Royal Solo x1 votes

PhearBunny 100% true

Leaf on Bush3 votes

He has always been like that. Dunno what you hope to achieve by reverting the last changes.

x Royal Solo x1 votes

I hoping to change the feeling of joy I had not trying to proc my god damn passive and maintain my blood well attack speed.

PePsiLemoNN1 votes

item 3123 item 3076 he's actually kinda shit in top lane

Terror131 votes

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Aatrox is a very strong champion. Too strong. People just do not realise how potent he is in lane he is worse than Tryndamere. Tryndamere has to at least build his rage to heal but aatrox heals every 3rd hit which is insane.

The only thing holding him back is lack of motility but like Darius that is what stops h being game breaking.

Aatrox is really fine. Maybe too oppressive. Lane against a melee and you're laughing only pokey champs hurt him early.

I fucking despise all you non-aatrox mains voting know, don't comment on a champ u don't know shit about.

Terror132 votes

I fucking despise all you non-aatrox mains voting know, don't comment on a champ u don't know shit about.

FDS Desperado1 votes

Revert? Nah, Reinvent. I always like Aatrox, but even pre rework he was really just disappointing to play. He is thematically pretty awesome and his gameplay just blows, they could do so much better with him.

x Royal Solo x2 votes

100% agree with you. what i was saying though is until he is reinvented he should be reverted, because for me personally I enjoyed him more prior to the changes.

FDS Desperado1 votes

Fair enough, but to be honest I got a better chance of walking outside and getting hit by lightning on a sunny day than Riot doing anything for Aatrox. Never seen a champion get released and then just left to die so hard before lol.

x Royal Solo x1 votes

lol yeah not to sure whats up with that. Almost like they hate the concept of him.

FDS Desperado1 votes

Yeah they really just haven't given any fucks about him since they made him. My guess would be, despite how cliche it is, that no big name players use him. He hasn't ever seen pro play, and you don't see qtpie or any other guys like that playing him. So he kinda just flies under the radar.

After all, Riot is running a business and the guy doesn't exactly sell skins or sell at all. I'd be shocked if their priority on balance and who got reworked when and how wasn't influenced on some level by management.

x Royal Solo x1 votes

That makes sense from a business perspective, but even so when champions becomes meta or gets reworked they automatically become more popular. Basically if they made him viable in pro play or even good enough for streamers to want to try, popularity would grow and more skins would be sold. Ex : Urgot totally useless prior to rework, now I see him in more games, with more skins.

Beas7ie1 votes

They should make it so that Tryndamere becomes the new wielder of the sword.

Tryndamere and Aatrox are deleted and a new champ : Tryndatrox appears.

He will have the abilities of both Tryndamere and Aatrox.

Passive Rage and Bloodwell complete with extra damage and revive

1st Q. He consumes fury to heal.

Q2. Is the gap closer knockup

1st W is Chicken

2nd W is the swap between plood price and blood lust

E. is the spin

2nd E is Aatrox's E

Ultimate is Endless Bloodlust

He draws in energy from the surrounding area dealing damage to all enemies in area, gain the buffs Aatrox received and also can't die for the next 5 seconds. This ability can also be used when under CC.

Let's check the Tryndatrox champion spotlight.

Here we see Tryndatrox in lane. He's trading with his opponent and gets low so he spins away to heal and disengage, and while the enemy has his guard down, Tryndatrox activates blood lust and Q's back in for the kill.

Here we have a teamfight and Tryndatrox spins from the jungle to kill the enemy Draven. Then he gets CCed by the tank and activates his ult. He deals TONS of damage to all enemies in the area and Qs into the group of them killing them all.

Seems reasonable.

x Royal Solo x1 votes

Seems like a nightmare lol.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

While you are at it, also add olaf's abilities. That attack speed increase based on missing health will be important.

Beas7ie1 votes

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While you are at it, also add olaf's abilities. That attack speed increase based on missing health will be important.

Then we'd just be throwing stuff together to make an OP champ with one of the most synergizing kits ever. Besides Olaf would never use that Aatrox sword thingy. He uses axes.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

Then we'd just be throwing stuff together to make an OP champ with one of the most synergizing kits ever.

Yes.... ok....

Blade of Justic1 votes

I've said it before and I'll say it again... give Aatrox Sion's old ult.

It fits thematically.

Sad Chihuahua1 votes

Seems like everyone here forgot he is getting a full gameplay update?

x Royal Solo x1 votes

Didn't forget, I would just like to play the champ and not wait 6 months for his rework.

By reverting him to before his mini rework fucked him up.

Jackom11 votes

Next to none plays him either way so... whatever

x Royal Solo x1 votes

He is played less since his mini rework, so.....

Give him a good rework and make him meta then he people will play him.

Your comment was stupid as shit. Refrain from expressing your stupidity on real topics.

Jackom11 votes

U wot m8? fite me irl!

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