AS buffs

Red Wreckage··2 votes·302 views

some rioter in some reddit thread:

"kayle is getting 15% bonus attack speed at level 1, but no one else currently -- going to give the first pass a chance to settle before we start seeing who needs further adjustments."

Yup, kayle is the only attack speed reliant champ

whoe plays these fk Yasuo MasterYi Jax Tryndamere Trundle and every other champion who ever needed AS, right?

adapt or gtfo. play kayle or gtfo

16 Comments

Khristophoros2 votes

lol? The Precision tree offers a lot of attack speed. I don't see why Kayle or any champ should need an AS buff.

CrisisEchoes1 votes

The runes and masteries are losing a lot of base stats, so they are buffing every champion in the game to compensate and make cs easier.

Khristophoros1 votes

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The runes and masteries are losing a lot of base stats, so they are buffing every champion in the game to compensate and make cs easier.

I know, but we are getting a shitload of AS in the Precision tree. Have you looked at it?

CrisisEchoes1 votes

I think theyre combining runes and masteries into 1 system. So it may look like alot, however its probably going to average out, due to you not pulling attack speed from two sources anymore.

Khristophoros2 votes

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I think theyre combining runes and masteries into 1 system. So it may look like alot, however its probably going to average out, due to you not pulling attack speed from two sources anymore.

There is only 4% attack speed possible from masteries.

9 AS marks is 15.3%

3 AS quints is 13.5%

together that's 28.8% but with full AS you are giving up any AD you might want.

With precision you can have like 12% passively but you can get a bunch of conditional AS from Lethal Tempo and you can build up more passive attack speed with Legend: Alacrity.

The biggest issue is you can't use Lethal Tempo against jungle camps but the machete is getting attack speed so we're fine for jungling.

Personally I think Lethal Tempo and Legend: Alacrity will more than make up for it in champion fights.

Red Wreckage1 votes

It's 15% vs 28% AS its just a nerf to all champs who ran 28% AS runes. earlier u had fervor of battle but now u have to chose between tempo for old AS or new fervor new fervor is easier to abuse for shit champs with AA resets like fiora/irelia etc. good luck winning trades as melee vs them. tempo just sucks early cause you potentially give up a lost of damage

Khristophoros1 votes

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It's 15% vs 28% AS its just a nerf to all champs who ran 28% AS runes. earlier u had fervor of battle but now u have to chose between tempo for old AS or new fervor new fervor is easier to abuse for shit champs with AA resets like fiora/irelia etc. good luck winning trades as melee vs them. tempo just sucks early cause you potentially give up a lost of damage

You aren't even considering Legend: Alacrity. The only drawback is you have to stack it up.

Red Wreckage1 votes

fully stacked, after 150 minions alone, it offers 15% AS...

to get it faster u can farm enemy champs instead for 20 stack per kill. ez pz

right..

AirKingNeo1 votes

EXCEPT EVERY CHAMPION GETS ACCESS TO ALACRITY, but they're get base AD buffs instead.

CrisisEchoes1 votes

usually you run 2 as quints and 5-9 as blues. with the ad. The mr is negligible because if you get hit by a magic damage skill youre dead anyway.

Red Wreckage1 votes

i dont see anything offering 28% AS at level 1

which is almost essential for Yasuo/Yi etc.

I dont think any Yasuo runs a rune setup that is not full AS

Khristophoros1 votes

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i dont see anything offering 28% AS at level 1

which is almost essential for Yasuo/Yi etc.

I dont think any Yasuo runs a rune setup that is not full AS

first of all fuck Yasuo

second of all Yi is a jungler so he gets the machete AS to keep his clear speed. Other than that runes should make up for it especially because he's a late game champ.

Red Wreckage1 votes

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first of all fuck Yasuo

judging by riot's take on AS buffs, they agree with you hehe

AirKingNeo1 votes

Because Kayle's stats from runes are into AS and not much else.

She still needs +5 base AD from two years ago.

Frontline Fury1 votes

No champions need stat buffs as it has all been handled by the new rune/mastery trees.

Red Wreckage1 votes

not all. Precision set bonus is 12%. and some other rune gives 3% at start, then u stack it for 15% more over time.

So, you start with 15% AS, as compared to 28% in old rune system. You could give up MR glyphs to get 35% AS at level 1...there were choices.

New runes are just a straight nerf to AS reliant champions. I was hoping base stats would be adjusted to make it as close as possible to current rune setups of different champs, even riot said before PBE that base stats would be adjusted to give different champions different stats at start, and gave example of Yi/Yasuo/Tryndamere needing AS.
But what a fking let down :)

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