Playing against talon and asol is indisputably the most toxic experience in league of legends
It's not because of how strong they are, hell I don't even really care about that. It's because they WILL shove you into turret and roam and there's nothing you can do about it. So what happens as a result? They get fed off of your team, and your team flames you. You can't follow them because you'll arrive too late and miss out on a lot of XP from them shoving the lane(or they just double back solo or with their jungler and murder you), so even if you get tower to punish them the damage is already done, your team has imploded.
I've tried doing everything I can- Warning my team that they are roaming as they leave lane, warning them in champ select, warning them before minions spawn, but without fail they always wind up being able to roam(unless they just mess up and feed) and then they get fed and I get flamed.
I think i'm just going to dodge whenever they get picked. Losing 3 LP is nothing compared to having to deal with that.