I can't figure it out. I try playing a regular braum or ali support and every game I'm against lux or brand and they just sit 1100 units away and spam spells at my adc and we're under tower with 10 hp and they're at full. Go to engage and my adc either runs under tower or we both die anyway. How do I win lane vs a mage support as a regular support? (my adc doesn't dodge skillshots)
Milla Jovovich1 votesKarma Lulu and Blitz do fine in those lanes I think
Crede7771 votesCurrently Braum and Ali are in weak positions when compared to supports like Lulu, Janna, Karma, Thresh, and the mage supports.
Support build path, especially early on, is heavily weighted towards AP, mana regen, and shields/healing.
Sujiren1 votesYou lose those lanes because they counter you, you dont want to pick low damage tank supports like braum into high damage poke supports,like velkoz you pick them to counter other all in supports like thresh or leona for example.
COBRA C0MM4NDER1 votesit don't matter what support you take if your ADC is a barn door target in a broken wheelchair (apologies for disabled folks who are actually in wheelchairs near barn doors with busted wheels)
you need to get your ADC to figure out how to dodge skillshots on a basic level. if it's CC you worry over, make them take cleanse and tell em to recall if they get low on hp.
sounds like it's your ADC being passive.
This Is Your Dad1 votesOr if I play a damage mage support, I can offer the poke he needs to farm...
This Is Your Dad1 votesWell, here's the thing. I played as ali support against a lux and we lost. So my adc is 0/7 at the end. Here's the kicker. I got paired against my adc the next game, who was now mid. went 8/2/12 as lux support and we won, but my adc still was sort of a wet noodle. Not as bad as the last one though. I don't know. The enemy ahri was super salty though lol. Is it just my playstyle, or are mage supports just.... better?
EngineeredUrMum1 votesWell the whole point of picking a mage support is to win lane.
The Fuzzy 0ne1 votesIt's an early game meta atm, and so mage supports still dominate because they will usually win lane vs melee supports. Because laning takes up the majority of the game length right now, an adc that's behind has a tough time getting back into the game and mage supports will earn gold regardless of how their adc will do because of the gold income from support items.
Going tanky supports are arguably better in the late game as they can soak up dmg and provide utility/hard cc so that the other members of the team who have more gold/experience can delete the enemy players. To win lane with them though really depends on how you play the lane vs how the enemy support plays the lane. an aggressive mage will win over an aggressive tank because poke>all in. But some tanks have sustain like alistar, so you can win but you have to play the match up smart, like waiting until they're low on mana to engage, or going in once they have their stuff on cd. Personally, this is why I play Taric. Great stun when you want to be aggressive, and a good shield and heal when you need to sit back