GG we lost and let me remind you all game

This Is Your Dad·10/16/2017, 9:37:30 PM·54 votes·2,166 views

These kinds of players that get mad over a regular pick irritate me. Someone picked vayne adc, and the support spent the entire god damn game going on about how we lost because his adc picked vayne. I can get someone getting mad at say, darius or amumu adc, but a regular marksman that actually is an adc is no reason to throw the game. They support ended 0/7/7 and left his adc at 5 minutes after dying twice to roam. What's even more annoying is the adc had preselected vayne, and the support said nothing until after the lock in. Then he claims he wasn't raging because being passive aggressive isn't raging. His response was "words don't lose games" and I disagree, mood is everything.

31 Comments

OnlyYouCanHearMe10/16/2017, 10:23:26 PM18 votes

You are not the only one who disagrees. Statistical studies disagree. And the numbers on how "tilt" affects games don't lie. There's a reason why Riot has a report category for having a negative attitude, when a player gives up and begins to say things like this throughout the game. I've always believed, and this is just my opinion, that the category for "negative attitude" is not intended for players who look at a match at 19:45 and see a team that is losing 3 kills to 30 kills, with 2 inhibitors down and the enemy team just took baron, and then decide to start a vote for surrender. That to me, is not "giving up." That's just making an assessment on the chances of whether you can feasibly win the match. They may, or may not, be right. Anything can happen, the enemy team could have a massive throw, but if the team decides that they would rather just not slog it out and would prefer to start fresh on a new match, then I'm not going to hold that against someone.

But someone like the support you mentioned, who decides to start complaining the moment someone locks in a champion? That to me is why that category is in place. Because not only are they displaying such overwhelming negativity, they have given up any hope of winning the match before they even spawn in, and what's worse, they are doing everything in their power to bring the rest of the team down with them. And that's the really sad thing. Because it could have been a completely winnable match, had they not done that. Who's to say that you didn't have some really amazing players on your team? But things like that disheartens players, it will make them doubt their own skills and their calls, and it will make them want to get out of the match ASAP just to get away from the whiner. It sure makes me want to. Even when I mute that person, I still want to get the heck out of that match, win or lose.

GGLineaR10/17/2017, 2:35:44 AM5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Anti Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=83QTGAve,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-10-16T21:37:30.140+0000) words don't lose games

Nah, hes right. Words dont lose games.

But dying 7 times and roaming all game because you didn't like the adc's pick does lose games.

What an absolute jackass. I hope you dont get stuck with someone like that again, m8.

Kaptain Kuddles10/17/2017, 1:41:12 PM3 votes

I think a lot of people don't understand that mentality: confidence, perception and mental acuity ABSOLUTELY affect your ability to play the game. "Decision making" is a huge part of your interaction with your team, your opponent and objective control and when you are distracted by someone else or even worse, when a teammate is demoralizing you or other players while also not attempting to make good decisions they are inhibiting everyone else's ability to play.

Instead of going for that Baron call when the other team has 2 bottom, you may end up questioning the call because you're unsure what the 'toxic' player may do or how they will react, costing an objective that could solidify the win. Now I wouldn't necessarily say 'mood' is everything. I would probably replace that word with mentality but it's essentially the same concept.

Ulquiorra012310/17/2017, 2:43:57 PM2 votes

So to preface this counterargument, I have been to every ELO except mid-high challenger. I have been in challenger twice totaling 4 days. I can tell you this, you are completely and utterly incorrect about not only that mood is everything, but the reason you lost that game. Do you know how many players get into Diamond+ being completely negative? Alot, a hell of alot.

So onto the first point here. Alot of challengers have issues in Silver, and I can tell you this, it isnt due to toxicity. There is an extreme matchmaking issue in the game currently at low elo that ends up making games unwinnable for people who have decent win rates because... reasons? I will tell you this, there are players ranging from Bronze 5 to Master tier players in the Silver - Gold ELO range. The game seems to pit itself against good players who are climbing fast, or against duos. And what I mean by this, is the enemy team will get an LCS comp, and we will get a Vayne adc. Do you know what the problem with this is? Not only does the enemy trist just outscale your vayne, but beats the vayne early. There is 0 reason to play vayne in silver unless you have god tier mechanics, which im sorry but you guys dont. Just play Trist, Kog, Twitch... Any of the three really. The more interesting fact, is that in the game you are talking about, if the adc picks Trist, its an autowin. Instead chose to pick Vayne and take a tumble into an inevitable loss provided the enemy team just plays well, which they did.

Picks matter, doesn't matter the elo, they do matter. And if you continue to pick things like Malphite and Trynd jungle, you will keep losing games.

The other problem in silver, is not the toxicity itself, but the people who cant click the mute button, that is specifically there to prevent tilt. As soon as someone is toxic in my game i just mute. It is that simple, I havent reported someone for toxicity in forever because they might just be having a bad day and need a way to vent, and if i dont want to see their text i have a button that removes it. The common trait i see in toxic players is their ability to play well while tilted. So if all 4 of you muted him the game would have went unphased. Instead you come to forums to cry because you forgot that the mute button exists.

Just keep this in mind: Just because a pick is popular in low elo, doesn't mean it is good. Mute toxic teammates or don't cry about it. There are much bigger problems than someone in your game crying their arse off about vayne being bad, like matchmaking being completely flawed, or the report system banning people for talking a bit of crap to inting teammates, or the fact you can get away with literally intentionally feeding but just say you are trying.

Execution and Skill are the two main factors of league and always will be. If you are so weak minded to be thrown off by someone crying about a champion, perhaps you should take a break from the game because clearly it is too much for you. You cannot decide that the game is lost (because someone is crying in chat), and then blame it on them, you decided it was lost :P

Dorans Pants10/17/2017, 7:37:29 PM1 votes

lol ofc it is. if u pick a garbage tier champ or counterpick yourself then don´t be suprised that people get mad. i can´t count how often i had to dodge because my adc decides to pick a shitty "early game" adc that gets outscaled at min15 against a late game team comp. because most people don´t give a fuck about matchups, teamcomps or win conditions. they just want to pick whatever they want.

70% of the time i can already tell which team will win in champselect. And it´s not like i just gave up. I really tried but it´s just so demoralizing being validated over and over.

IcyPepper10/17/2017, 7:53:46 PM1 votes

I can get someone getting mad at say, darius or amumu adc,

Or anything besides a traditional marksman bot lane as a carry.

Like, my god, that lane carry position has no flexibility.

Vashtrall10/17/2017, 10:24:40 PM1 votes

You disagree? I can have people telling me im this or that, telling me I should this or that, telling me I play like this or that. I don't care. I won't even mute them like some scared bird. If I know I play well then that's that, if not, that's fine, I was bad.

RainbowIcee10/17/2017, 10:37:41 PM1 votes

GG, you lost op. [sg-ahri-2]

Disabled Support10/18/2017, 2:36:12 AM1 votes

warning: essay approaching, lol. I'm not a prophet, teacher,novelist or anything..

I can't even rank yet but seeing things in norms as a usual support player sort of irks me. It's usually the marksman that starts to cry and bash me, mid or jg (or all of us) for doing nothing to help them when they do stupid risky things after we all ping "Be Careful!". I understand the meta is "Protecc marksman = free wins" but it's hard to protect some people who are just acting like idiots and having them flame you for their mistakes. For example, Ashe runs into dragon pit while rest of the team is setting up by herself to invade, ults but misses and dies. She screams at me, the support, and the jungle for not following up after not communicating her plays at all and for the whole timer that she's down she's raging. Sure I can mute her, but I didn't know she was toxic by now, and my mood is already lower than before and I lose a bit of confidence in being able to do risky plays which means less likely to win. I also feel less likely to play along with "Protecc marksman" because the marksman was being rude, so I'd rather just "throw" over winning because I feel like they deserve the loss for their misconduct. Not only that, but some people are more sensitive than others. Even if you think that you are the most "level headed" person in the universe who can't ever be tilted, not everyone is like you. Some people have mental conditions, are naturally more sensitive or are just having a bad day and want to escape whatever is going on in real life for an escape in video gaming. Then a flamer comes along and makes things worse, making the person having a bad day have a bad experience and might not want to play the game again. Being trapped in that game, that person will play worse because these negative thoughts/feelings start to show in their actions. Maybe they flame back or act toxic and do certain things that are considered dumb or not useful to the team. Maybe they go afk for a few minutes at a time to blow off steam and get more behind, or maybe they just leave the game because they're so amd they don't care. Basically, words INDIRECTLY change the course of a game. If you do the opposite and give praise or advice when needed, players will not only feel more confident about their abilities to do things and feel more willing to do risky plays which can win a game. Your information might also form the way another summoner plays forever, and will help them learn how to play a champion correctly. Being positive also lessens the impact of a loss, because at least you got a smile or a laugh out of the game, or even some really helpful information you will use next game.

AraMoOse10/16/2017, 10:41:59 PM1 votes

Mute him, report him, move on.

FCJAAAAGOOOO10/17/2017, 5:32:26 AM1 votes

I disagree; mood is mood and gameplay is everything. If they're inting in any form in-game they're not playing.

Stinrygar10/17/2017, 5:48:25 PM1 votes

Yes, that's called a negative attitude, unless it's 100% true. For example, if it's 0-25 and no objectives for your team, that's not really a matter of attitude. It actually just is a loss and no amount of positive thinking will change that.