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Wînter Fox3 votes

How about everyone uses their wards...

and you buy sightstone

IcyPepper1 votes

That's what I'm saying!

NOTHING in this thread implies we shouldn't have to buy sightstone! We just need some goddamn help!

DrCyanide1 votes

The point might be made more clear by hovering the players that placed 2 or 3 wards all game, rather than the Bard (who likely bought Sightstone and thus isn't the target of the PSAs).

Arcus Diabolus2 votes

This. THIS is a pain in the ass to deal with as a support, especially when you get bitched at for there not being enough vision. I can only drop three friggin wards.

If this were season 3, I could light the whole damn map up like a christmas tree by myself. But now? The three ward limit practically requires that the team picks up the tab. I can't do it myself anymore. You got a trinket, fucking use it.

IcyPepper1 votes

Great, now the thread is going to be buried.

The main argument? "But the support--"

It's like nobody's bothered to see the point here. The whole "PSA Sightstone" is starting to turn into a circlejerk and nobody's willing to actually discuss.

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

Everyone should ward, that includes the garbage elementalist lux 'support' with FQC and no wards.

IcyPepper1 votes

Everyone should ward

You know, this is an global lesson all could heed to and learn from

that includes the garbage elementalist lux 'support' with FQC and no wards.

But this incredibly specific anecdote seems to be the focus of your comment.

I apologize for coming across as aggressive here, but that way of thinking is the point of my post. Players not using trinkets is probably a bit more common than the garbage Lux 'support,' and both are rather annoying.

Cocho1 votes

I get sightstone like 4th item as support

fight me

I think bard warded too much

IcyPepper1 votes

make love, not war brotha

Hey, early game power with late-game vision. Better than nothing. Doesn't always have to be on your first back, at least...

Dasdi961 votes

Maybe they switched to sweeper.

IcyPepper1 votes

Five sweepers is a bit much, isn't it? :P

meowwow71 votes

not against a Shaco Teemo or Jhin if they ever live to see the light of play

IcyPepper1 votes

... Point taken.

SwiftKitten881 votes

yes other people not warding is an issue. but its MORE of an issue of the support had placed only those 10 wards

IcyPepper1 votes

I dunno, four people not warding seems to have a bigger impact that one person. Sure, a sightstone alone has more power than a single trinket, but four trinkets?

Good warding habits should be stressed, but it seems like people only care about one role doing it.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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I dunno, four people not warding seems to have a bigger impact that one person. Sure, a sightstone alone has more power than a single trinket, but four trinkets?

Good warding habits should be stressed, but it seems like people only care about one role doing it.

i know. why are you trying to argue with me... we both agree.. i am just saying if only ONE of the players on you team didn't ward i would rather any other player than the support.. obviously EVERYONE needs to ward AND needs to REMOVE enemy vision.

the people who say "its everyone job to ward" are 100% correct.

the people who use that as an excuse to not just a sightstone as support need to be permabanned.

JhomasTefferson1 votes

Teemo support doesn't need sightstone. He has mushrooms

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Teemo support doesn't need sightstone. He has mushrooms

as a player who used to nidalee support back in season 3 and 4... i know where u are coming from.. and i will admit he donest need a sightstone as much or as early.. (normally a sightysont eshould be bought right after your 500 gold income item upgrade (which should be the first thing u buy on your first back) so 2nd back (or third if u don't have the gold yet) you should have a sightstone.

normally thats around the 8 min mark.

champs that have other forms of vision or even adc that provide vision (like Kalista Ashe Jhin /Caitlyn traps ) can or off meta support like Teemo Shaco Nidalee it can sometimes be acceptable to DELAY the sight stone...

i used to not get sightstone on Nidalee support until between 12-20 min. because back then traps lasted 4 min and i there was no max trap limit.

but even champs like teemo support needs to have a sightstone by 20 min.

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