remove fioras "minigame"

Qiyana Ixaocan·1/30/2020, 10:09:31 PM·5 votes·1,324 views

no one should get free harass just by existing. you either give fiora free damage or back off and miss farm. That is inherently broken as a mechanic no one should be able to deny you farm simply because they exist.

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Darkdemon6531/31/2020, 12:46:54 AM4 votes

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no one should get free

It's not free. No champion gets anything for free.

Exodus2471/30/2020, 11:32:19 PM3 votes

They keep giving her free shit. In my eyes, she has no real counterplay anymore. She used to, for example, the whole thing where her splitpush was really bad, now isnt a thing with her q and e hitting towers. Her ult used to not give innate movespeed, you had to hit a vital for that, now she gets to run at you at warwick speed for free. The worst part is how generous the passive hitboxes are, especially with the q auto locking onto them, and in some cases, defying physics to proc them. Its bullshit, but shes one of the golden children, so shes not gonna be changed anytime soon

Baby Ghoul1/31/2020, 1:13:21 AM3 votes

I feel like Fiora is Riot's pet project, and that's why she's allowed to be BS.

If you think about it, the Fiora and juggernaut reworks are what started this whole mess with stuffing so much into one kit.

She used to be the most binary champion in the game. There were three possible outcomes. You cheesed early game with your QAAQAA combo and started a snowball that nobody could contest, or you didn't get anything done and fell off hard after laning phase. Or you got old Malphite picked into you and immediately lost. She wasn't as popular past Silver because everyone that got through Silver remembered what it was like taking a bad fight against Fiora and having the game spiral.

To the design team her dynamic elements probably seem like a big success. She's a proplay darling now, but what they really did was go from one extreme to the other. She really has no downsides and that's just as toxic as a feast or famine design.

NickColaTesla 1/31/2020, 1:53:38 AM1 votes

If you try AA a vital spot early game, you're gonna get chunked down by minions.

She has terrible wave clear. She can either be terrible at farming or can't hold a perma freeze because of tiamat.

Wanna know how can harass just by existing? Teemo? Vayne? Kennen? Ornn? Darius? Quinn? Ryze (God, son't get me started on Ryze)? The list literally goes on for every champion.