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But there's no reason to lash out verbally, either. Much less doing so umpteen times across three separate punishments warning you against lashing out verbally.
Yes you should be punished if you cannot keep your temper in check. I never said you shouldn't. I said you shouldn't be banned for being upset. Expecting in a game where its far easier to troll for a thousand games or afk with no punishment no one to get upset ever is ridiculous and unrealistic. People only have so much patience and willpower, there is no excuse for anyone to be justifying a tempo or perma ban because someone lost their temper.
Like it or not, you agreed to rules that said you're not allowed to flame and lash out. Break those rules and you get punished; break them enough times, and Riot will have to permanently ban you so that you can't break the rules anymore.
But they wont to people who ruin games in real ways that don't have multiple ways to prevent already like a mute button or /muteall. Not until they have either done something insanely blatant or have done in a few hundred games right? There's a difference between getting upset in a few games and using hate speech or trolling. Different crimes should have different punishments. An equivalent example would be we don't jail jaywalkers we jail rapists and murderers.
Riot prefers the Chat Restriction over a Chat Ban; limiting chat to a few lines in a given timeframe across several games is meant to reinforce using chat wisely, for things that will actually better influence your odds at a win.
Chat restrictions are stupid and do nothing but irritate the person experiencing it. I can tell you that i would rather not be able to speak than only be able to partially speak. If i have a great idea and need to type it then a chat restriction stops that. You can communicate fine with pings.
Chat restrictions already do not inform other players that the restricted player in question is currently clearing their punishment.
Ok that's not relevant to my suggestion.
I disagree. Flaming is dishonorable behavior, so it should hurt your honor. In general, if you don't want to get punished, lose your account, lose Honor, etc., don't break the rules.
Again if you want to execute a jaywalker like you would a murderer sure. In this case youd be committing genocide of the human race for getting upset sometimes. I'm more than willing to accept that many will feel losing your temper is worthy of losing honor. But it will never be morally justifiable to permanently ban someone cause they got upset a few times.
There's a difference between having emotions and being ruled by emotions. It's fine to get upset, but lashing out at others is counterproductive and a bad way to let those emotions dissolve. And with there being plenty of other means to dispel anger besides lashing out and flaming others, you can't really use the argument of emotion to defend flaming and harassing other players.
There's a difference between being ruled by emotions and having them. Its apparently not fine to get upset hence people getting banned for it. Lashing out at others is not counter productive in an online video game. Mute exists. If someone is being unproductive with text mute them. As far as using other methods to vent your frustration agree there's tons. you can go for a walk, you can stop being where things upset you, you can do something else... Oh wait... No you can't, that's also against the rules. So you're wrong. You are forced to either mute them and report after your experience is already ruined and you are upset and do this even its the 12th time in a row but make sur eyou dont say anythign back being upset and saying anything means you're a horrible person who should lose their account.
Its not an excuse to get upset. Everyone you included will eventually get upset and get into an argument. Should you lose your house over it? Maybe you should be put in jail? Lose your bank account? Because thats the equivalent of what you are saying. Lose all the time you put into your account and money you spent on it because you weren't perfect and do not even pretend you don't have to be. Because according to you getting upset a couple times means you should lose all that.
If you can't help yourself but to flame and lash out, then you need to work on your anger issues, plain and simple. And if it comes to the point of you being permanently banned from League due to flaming - which, mind you, requires a fair amount of time and at least three separate punishments, with a final warning - then your anger is very clearly a problem, and that you need to work on it.
I don't agree with you. Clearly you don't play league of legends often enough to understand if you can go five games in a row playing solo without getting flamed seeing afk or a troll you just witnessed a god damn miracle. If you play ranked solo at around silver i promise you, if you do ten games a day. You will eventually see a punishment. If you manage to avoid that for a three month period i will dub you a literal saint. You have the patience of one. Realistically tho you play 20-40-60 games you're gonna get upset in 2 or 3. Maybe even say something because this game is frsutrating. So yes there should be a punishment but it should definitely not be you lose your account because you are not a perfect little robot.
This little bit of hyperbole makes it very difficult to consider your criticisms valid. Riot doesn't expect you to be a "perfect little robot", they expect you to show some common decency and basic respect to other players instead of harassing and flaming them.
Do not lie. If you get upset in 3 games you will not be punished at all. Unless you have been reported in other games regardless of if those other games are something you did anything in. If you have been reported 10 times in other games but did nothing wrong in them. Then got upset in 3 games, no matter how mild you WILL be punished. Not because youre toxic but because of how easily abusable the report system is in this game. You better pray you never have enough bad games within a month of getting upset or that you get upset again or you will see a punishment. You do have to be perfect. Because if you aren't one bad game can and often does trigger you're account being terminated.
You're equating everything besides flaming and venting your frustrations on other people to being "non-human" and robotic, and I cannot take that argument seriously. At all.
No i am equating riots expectations to that. If you spend 30 minutes telling your team you're all worthless fucking trash, scum, that should fucking uninstall, you pieces of shit. Yeah you are a bad person and probably could do with a temp ban, id question justifying a perma ban unless this was a constant thing but you definitely need a break. If you write one or 2 paragraphs or less in 3 minutes cause you got upset not so much.
Again: If you're getting permanently banned for flaming, you're not "making the mistake of being human". By that point, after a 10-game chat restriction, 25-game chat restriction, and 14-day ban, with the explicit warning that further misbehavior will result in a permanent ban, if you STILL flame and harass others, you're not "making the mistake of being human", you're just going out of your way to be an asshole.
First off, no one said anything about flaming. I said gettining upset for a few lines in a game. If you wont shut up and just go on and on and constantly harass your team its different than what you can be punished for which is significantly less. You can be perma banned for losing your temper for 2 lines of dialogue the worst thing being idiot or even no insults at all. Because you where upset for a minute or 2 then calmed down. Stop pretending there's some minimum you have to do and that's any kind of extreme if you believe that you are woefully misrepresenting either intentionally or because you don't have any idea at all what the trigger is. The sheer minuscule amount of effort it takes to lose your account.
Riot isn't going to let you break the rules over and over and over again.
Riot makes the rules and just like laws rules can be bad and cause more harm than good. That is why laws get changed and updated. Just like in this case. No one said no punishment should exist. But we shouldn't be jailing jaywalkers and claiming you where warned not to get upset again.
