Characters we hate and why

HubeartheGrizzly·10/18/2019, 12:54:45 PM·14 votes·13,866 views

So its more of a collection of questions for the community. We all have a champion or 50 which we don't like because we feel they are OP or have too much going on. So I want to know what people think about it.

Who is the champ you like the least (hate the most)?

Why do you hate this champion?

What would be one change you would make to the champion to make them more bearable (add something from the kit or remove something from their kit)?

Why would this change help for the overall playstyle for the champion?

98 Comments

Tr4shB4NSYST3M10/18/2019, 6:59:15 PM13 votes

Qiyana b/c assassins should not have 2 forms of immobilizing CC.

Sylas because he is a failure of design, no champ should ever have had the ability to steal ults (plus his kit on his base abilities is overloaded too, unbalanceable garbage).

Mundo- One of the most stat check champs in the game: Can you outdamage his healing or not?

Yuumi: B/c enchanters shouldn't be able to basically frontline with poke while taking no risk.

Juice10/18/2019, 1:56:26 PM9 votes

Akali

Braindead, OP, too safe, too easy, VERY limited opportunity for counterplaym, no windows where you can capitalize on her mistakes, too many escape abilities

Illaoi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZpodU5JtvM

'nuff said. 1 shot me while 1 level down and with +8 ad from doran blade

Camille

See : Akali

Darius

Braindead, OP, insta win any melee lane, right click enemy champ inside his own minion wave and kill him, 2000 gold worth passive early game (gets absurd late game), always cheesing bushes, too hard to kill

Gangplank

Not braindead but OP, annoying, too safe, too cheesy, too unkillable solo, forces you to play his little mini game all laning phase

Kai Sa, Xayah

Overloaded, too safe, multiple escapes etc

Neeko

Rengar

Evelynn

Caitlyn

Vel Koz

Hate all of these to a certain degree

Zed genius10/18/2019, 5:31:12 PM9 votes

Fucking kayn man. He is not necessarily overpowered, but I just hate him so much. Whenever he is not intentionally feeding (aka going blue form) he just becomes a monster in team fights than can never die no matter how ahead or behind he is.

If i was to change this champion I'd nerf the healing on red form and buff SOMETHING in his blue form, so it's actually viable. (Keep in mind, I'm not talking about Iron 3 where blue kayn is viable)

Second place would probably be Orianna (Although If viktor becomes meta, he's way worse for me). She is so unfun to lane against, and she only gets stronger as the game progresses. I would add mana costs to her abilities if I had to change anything, because currently they don't cost any. On the brightside, I love playing Yasuo into Orianna, and when she is about to Q-R to windwall her Q, which makes her ult herself and look like a dumbass lol.

Thefrostyviking10/18/2019, 8:05:28 PM7 votes

Zoe

I just really dont like her style of walking around then suddenly jumping into my face while tossing her bubble, unable to really be CC´d then while i am sleeping she starts her Q and just deletes 60 to 100% of my healthbar.

Umbral Knight10/18/2019, 2:08:15 PM7 votes

Yasuo, Windwall. Rank one it honestly is so powerful it can win teamfights if placed and used right.

Keiaga10/18/2019, 3:30:11 PM6 votes

Frustration stems from ignorance this is a very well intentioned thread but you'll only get people spouting misinformed perceptions on champs because they refuse to learn them

HeeroTX10/18/2019, 3:35:47 PM6 votes

Jinx is my most hated champion by a MILE. She's also my most killed champion BECAUSE I HATE HER. I've learned to kill her extensively BECAUSE I HATE HER. I go super aggro when she's my lane opponent BECAUSE I HATE HER. It's not a gameplay thing, so there's no "fix" to make me not hate her. It began because of her kit (not that it is hard to play against, but simply the concept) but its expanded into everything. The fact that she's apparently popular so Riot keeps shoving her in my face doesn't help.

From a gameplay perspective, Yasuo is easily the most hated/hateable champion in the game. For how to fix it, either remove Windwall or make it weaken like Braum's shield. As a Tristana main whose ENTIRE KIT revolves around ranged attacks that can ALL be blocked by Windwall, there's zero way to leave the ability intact and not have me hate him. (altho the ult swap idea noted by Umbral Knight is intriguing)

Randomly, I currently hate Lux Morgana Swain Zyra but that's less the champions themselves and more hating the current META/trend of putting brainless AP mages in bot lane that just spam zoning damage abilities all lane phase. Dodging big patches of damage and/or random roots & snares while ALSO dodging enemy ADC attacks USUALLY while my support does nothing worthwhile gets really tiring.

Lęmon10/18/2019, 4:21:04 PM5 votes

Obvio Yasuo

stupid windwall along with his passive sheild is so stupid. PLUS his MOBILITY is WACK. I wouldn't say he's broken, or impossible to play against but I do find myself in pain and agony playing against him. He's a stupid champ. Highest ban rate in the game, yet riot ignores it. Windwall needs a higher CD IMO and get rid of his passive. Set a restriction on his dashes (whats that ability??) he can go through minions to catch up to you with no restrictions and it's stupid. He's so stupid.

I also don't really like Ashe that much?? It's really not that big of a deal, it's just how much I hate that her AA slows, plus her volley...it's just a lot of slow..But she's not too bad! Just her Auto Attacks are kinda wack. Not broken or OP just before someone comes at me...just voicing I'm not the biggest fan of her :) not ban worthy though

My main Lux is super fkn annoying too lmao, her q hitbox is stupid as hell. I love her as a character and she's fun and has cool skins and I LOVE her as a champ (could you tell?) but I won't lie, her q hitbox is wack. Sometimes can be hard to dodge. But she's not rly that hard to play against. Not a lot of mobility.

Some I find annoying/frustrating a lot: Karma Blitzcrank Garen Fizz Galio Nautilus Tryndamere Talon (I don't hate them rly,, just dislike them.)

Posui Gart10/18/2019, 2:40:56 PM5 votes

Champions that are not punished enough for making mistakes. Lets go with Zed for example, although that doesn't really mean he is the most forgiving champion.

Why do I hate them? Because at my skill level of playing the game both I and my opponents usually do quite a lot of mistakes, but the enemy is not punished as hard for them. Example: Zed is out of position and is getting ganked? W-W. He dived under the tower with ult and miscalculated his damage? R to instantly return to safety. He returned with his R too soon and can't finish the enemy? Its ok, he has 1 more chance to hit his Q from that shadow, or if he used your W there to get the triple Q, he can jump to it and finish the job. The matchup is hard and Zed can't AA minions without taking unfavourable trades? No problem, he can lasthit with Qs and his passive and E make lasthitting minions easy even under turret. He can deal quite a lot of damage without getting close with his WEQ. And the biggest problem is that he is actually balanced/weak overall, because assassins are weak in teamfights and Zhonyas exists, so there is no way there will be a nerf to his 1v1 any time soon.

One change to make it better? In Zed's case, remove Zhonyas and Stopwatch(or at least the full immunity on its active), then rebalance assassins around it. Additional changes could be improving his teamfighting power at the cost of raw combo damage

GreenKnight10/18/2019, 12:58:05 PM4 votes

{quoted}

Who is the champ you like the least (hate the most)?

Do i have to pick only one?

Speeedy10/18/2019, 4:20:03 PM4 votes

Kaisa is my most hated to play against. Why I hate playing against her: this one moment where I was playing my main cait we saw their support start to roam mid so my support followed while the minions were just outside out turret (very few minions like 2-3 casters only) So Kasai flash W me then instantly ult behind me under my turret presses Q and autos me like 2 or 3 times and still gets out alive after eating 3-4 turret shots plus me hitting her. I had E on cd and i was like ok so she can dive me when i have 90+% hp solo with no minions and can kill me while we both were 1/0/0. To give her credit she did have rageblade fully stacked and item 3004 item 3006 . I did have flash but not heal and even if I did it wouldn't of made a difference.

Fondling Gems10/19/2019, 11:29:41 AM4 votes

Zoe

Not because she is my least favourite champion to fight, but for a number of other reasons.

The most minor of these is her kit. It annoys me that the only poke midlaner allowed to be viable at pro play in the last few seasons got to do it because they were also a 100-0 burst mage. Annoying, but I can live with it: especially now that she has been gutted.

The next of these are her visuals. She looks like some (and I mean no disrespect towards aspiring artists with this) new artist's oc that was put up on deviantart or something. Overly cartoony in a game that uses that artstyle no where else, an excess of glitter, and how overused can missmatched eyes on the annoying "Oh look at me I'm so silly" character get?

Voice Lines. Wow. It makes me wish we had individual champion sound sliders. If I knew where the Zoe sound files were stored I would replace them all with Yasuo yelling "Hasagi" because that would be less annoying. On top of that she is a character basically trying to NTR Ezreal and Lux (and don't get me wrong, I hate that relationship on so many levels; but Zoe's lines are so bad I actually support that ship comparatively)

Lore. Damn. I don't even know where to start on the first time DnD player vibes here. She is one of the Aspects (oof, related to my favourite champion too), but she has the most powerful Aspect in a setting where Aspects are some of the most powerful characters in all of Leagues lore. Not the strongest, but damn close. She is an ancient loli. I hate this concept so much. Kids? Fine. Ancient characters? Fine. Ancient kids? Wat? She nuked an entire town and had all the reaction of a murderhobo party listening to the DM talk about lore.

I just can't stand this little Mary Sue. Everything about her design is a huge turn off for me. She basically embodies the elements of what I consider bad design: and the worst part is that it was done by professional designers who put their full effort into making sure it was done well. So it isn't even a design I can dismiss as bad, it is bad design that was done well. That means I have to actually analyze it while keeping one eye closed and taking frequent breaks to try and preserve a portion of my sanity.

LanceTheMighty10/18/2019, 7:14:43 PM3 votes

Teemo Don't want him on my team, dont want him on the enemies team, when hes on the enemy team my top laner always finds a way to get solokilled by him. When hes on my team he ints and loses lane despite being ignite teemo. Poppy Neeko Because they have annoying voice lines, I seriously wish there was a setting so I could only hear my champs voice lines.

Zero Shingetsu10/18/2019, 3:25:26 PM3 votes

Lore-wise, Illaoi. No question.

Balance-wise, there are a LOT right now. But the one I absolutely can't stand is Master Yi. He has all the mobility he wants with very little effort. He can heal through soft CC. He can IGNORE soft CC. He gets tons of true damage. He gets a free "nope" card every 2.4 seconds. And none of it so much as requires a skillshot.

I hate Yasuo, but at least you can lock Yasuo down if you time things right and predict his movements. You can't lock Yi down unless you're outright lucky. Don't lock him down in exactly two seconds? Say goodbye to your ADC.

Akali Prime10/19/2019, 6:12:21 AM3 votes

Garen too fucking tanky. does too much fucking damage. and runs too fucking fast. and has too much fucking tenacity so you can barely cc him.

Lux plays too fucking safe. can fight you while literally standing on the other side of the lane so she never has to leave tower range.

Vayne Kaisa Caitlyn fed adcs should never be able to 1v1 fed assassins

Leona 3 stuns on one champion. why?

Kassadin Udyr how the fuck are you supposed to catch/run away from these champions?

Singed your either REALLY GOOD or REALLY BAD with him, his proxy farming strat promotes feeding for most people who dont main him. is a total noob trap and needs to be reworked.

Gangplank why the FUCK does he need a speed boost after everything he does???

Neeko i just hate her stupid face honestly and her personality is god awful along with her kit. so, everything. i literally hate this champions existence and i really dislike whoever made her.

everyone else is fine in my book, more or less.

Firebeard10/18/2019, 4:06:28 PM3 votes

I don't have the greatest eye for balance so this kind of change might either be too strong or too weak so accept it with a grain of salt. The champion that I dislike seeing the most is I won't call him OP by any stretch. My issues with him are personal in nature. My best ADC's are pretty much all immobile, so it is difficult to the point of being practically unable to farm well for the first several levels. What I would probably change would either be the size of his pillar of flames, or alternatively increase the time it takes for the ability to pop so that the skillshot can actually function like a skillshot. Secondary to the Pillar of flames is his % max hp burn on his passive. That shit chunks too hard too early in my opinion. So what I would probably change is to make the % hp tie in to the number of abilities hit. Instead of the flat 3% max hp burn, maybe 1.5% hp for one hit ability, refreshed and amped to 2.5% for a second ability, and 4% max hp if you can chain 3 abilities into one another in addition to the normal passive pop. The latter change would make his laning a bit more bearable as well as rewarding successful completion of combos.

only luciano10/19/2019, 9:21:44 AM2 votes

There only two melee AD in the game Tryndamere and Yasuo . The fact that they are given crit already in their is a big balance problem for them and adc. Also the other mechanics they given since they need help staying in the shit. Yas shield and R and Tryn R and life steal.

Makes me nervous for the third melee AD that is coming in 2020. Because we all love the two we already got.

G0blinSlay3r10/19/2019, 11:21:01 AM2 votes

Pyke trash Yasuo trash 99% of the last 5 years trash. Anyone that defends pyke.. lives in worse denial than me..

Bârd10/18/2019, 10:01:01 PM2 votes

Morgana

You want to play a melee? You're not allowed to move.

You want to play a catcher? Ha, funny joke.

You want to play mid? Don't worry, she'll end up being the midlaner and just shove you under tower constantly.

The thigh guy10/21/2019, 2:37:25 AM2 votes

Most liked champion Kayn Rewarding gameplay, with clear weaknesses

Most hated. Ekko

This is the only champion riot has given a button that basically says “rito I fucked up, plz help :c.”

What id change. Remove the heal on his ult. It gets to keep its escape ability, but doesn’t allow him to go full r%%%%% into a 5 man team and still get away unscathed.

Forhonor32110/22/2019, 4:38:35 AM1 votes

Honestly, too many to count so I'll just go through and see who I feel I hate the most and we'll see what we get.

Akali - Everyone knows how she is so I don't really think I need to explain much here. Can't really say what I would want to change since I lot has already happened to her ( I mean, didn't she lose stun on Ult and W stealth changed?). Maybe make her E only work at a certain range like Lee Sin Q so you can actually try to get away from her if possible? ( also no more Eing into fountain deaths)

Anivia Never have liked playing against her or trying to kill her twice before rebirth. At minimum maybe reduce stun duration on Q a bit?

Annie Don't like how she can just hold onto that stun. Would rather she tries to build up to the stun and can hold it for a duration before it's lost. Maybe as some composition do something to ult, like ministun for compensation since she needs to hold onto stun for that gimmick.

Blitzcrank Don't like getting hooked to immediately get knocked up. First off: pull back Q length buff. That was stupid. Maybe try to fix hit box for that afterwards?

Just melts everyone. Plays almost support now and is just a pain in the ass. Maybe reduce his % health damage or make some abilities slower, like Pillar since you typically try to use it on stunned enemies. Maybe make the 3 hit explosion go off slower.

Camille From my experience of her, I just can't win. She does true damage, she's mobile, she has survivability to an extent, it's ridiculous. Reduce shield a bit, or lower % of true damage. I've just never liked this champ since her release.

Ekko Can just delete you and then recall to get health back or safety. Maybe reduce burst, lower W stun at early levels.

Ezreal Constantly abuses on-hit items. Maybe reduce certain items to melee (a lot of people have suggested this and I agree with them)

Fiora Make it so her Q only refunds after hitting a champ than just anything. Could reduce true damage done on vitals. Maybe even lower time when vitals are available and up.

Irelia - Another mobile champ that just does lots of true damage and just feels overloaded. Would rather see her be shifted back to a shield breaker and no auto mechanic back. Lower heal on Q maybe, remove mark from ult, I really can't pin down what I would change the way she is now.

Jax He just is a purple eggplant that hops on you and beats you to death. At most lower attack spd gained from passive a bit, maybe lower stun duration, or make his ult focused on building some defense if he wants those bonuses.

Jayce Pokes you from range, hops in, burst, knock away, rinse and repeat. Maybe lower his range a tiny bit or lower damage on Q projectile. Lower knockback distance.

Karma Always face her now and again and is either top lane cancer or just a super annoying support to deal with. Kind of feel like cheating but would rather just see a rework of her since I hear a lot of champs just do the things she does but better. Only exception that she can do multiple things.

Lulu Don't face too often but can't really stand facing when I do. Probably scale polymorph so early ranks aren't super harsh but can scale to what they are now I guess?

Malphite Ult just isn't fun to play around (especially when he goes full AP). Would add some form of counterplay to maybe get a bit more reaction time to see it coming but still have it be the same just a bit. Like a quick delay that you can see but still need to act fast on.

Pyke He's just a mistake. Can regen out of combat or if he can get away when caught (which is easy for him), his stupid execute and bonus gold. Honestly, he either needs to just give all the gold to a teammate if they helped out and remove his second portion of cut if he wants to be a solo assassin. Maybe reduce health regen amount as well.

Rengar He. Literally. Just. One. Shots. You. And Riot is apparently fine with this. I would say that he needs to have his jump a bit slower if he's farther from his target (if that's not already a thing). Maybe try to open his window of burst so you don't just see his ult icon and then black and white screen.

Riven I hate how she can just build so much CDR and damage right now. And Riot has buffed her a lot and haven't really reverted her buffs when she was strong. First, CDR limiting. In general, there could be less in the game. Second, maybe make it so she can only stack one of her passive and play into the whole 'weaving autos with spells' concept. Could also have it so she needs to deal damage to build up execution on her ult, either in damage or range even. I really hate this champ.

Tryndamere He's just not fun. Make the whole game about babysitting him so he can't split push and trying to get a lead or else he stops you and you can't fight back since he'll have his ult. Again, feels like cheating but he needs a rework. He's not fun to play against and he's not fun to play as. His ult is a gimmick "get out of death for a few seconds" card, he almost always has his E up since he has built in crit and builds it + CDR, he just needs to be reworked.

Vayne Never have liked her. She pops off too much nowadays. Make her ult a flat duration, make her deal magic or bonus physical instead of true, lower the true damage, remove/lower the Q CD bonus during ult.

Yasuo WE ALL KNOW WHY WE HATE HIM!!!! Dashing around, windwalls, crits, stupid placement of R when near towers, etc. Some ideas could be that crit damage is further lowered, like 175% or even 150% (maybe too much). He's someone that is typically getting full crit with two items and build whatever he needs afterwards. Or his windwall could have scaling duration, reduced greatly at early levels to the duration he has now at max. It could maybe block a number of projectiles or certain amount of damage. He could have a dash limit on E with it getting removed at max rank, removal of shield, reduced AP after ult, just a lot of things to make him less annoying.

AND THE LIST OF CHAMPS THAT I ALSO HATE BUT COULDN'T THINK OF WHAT TO CHANGE ABOUT THEM:

Azir Elise Fizz Janna Kaisa Kennen KogMaw Leblanc LeeSin Lux MasterYi Nidalee Orianna Renekton Ryze Shaco Singed Soraka Sylas Syndra Talon Teemo Twitch Udyr Vladimir Xayah Zed Zilean Zoe Zyra

(I'm starting to think I really just hate League nowadays)

Celebrimborr10/21/2019, 12:45:13 AM1 votes

Fiora Heimerdinger Kaisa Lux Tryndamere Zoe Blitzcrank