What do you do against panth?

AwesomeGuyDj·Jun 30, 2017·4 votes·544 views

Like seriously, besides picking ranged (quinn, teemo) or a mage who doesnt rely on auto's (swain). What can you actually do against a GOOD pantheon?

19 Comments

Alex h8721Jul 1, 20172 votes

Pick Renekton start item 1054 , laugh at him as he runs OOM poking you with Q while you have no worries about mana and sustain thru his poke w/ Doran shield/Q healing.

Renekton trades evenly with him normally (same duration on W stun etc), and Wins trades when his fury bar is over half full b/c of the longer stun duration, Renekton has better mobility w/ double dash on E (if 1st dash hits), and since panth's ult is better for zoning in teamfights/roaming you shouldn't be getting hit by it where renekton has a far better In combat ult which again helps him to out-trade panth.

Same as the others said, call missing and try to follow if he TP's botlane for example.

HalcyonDwellerJun 30, 20171 votes

Buy Potions and armor?

You need sustain and resistances to mitigate his burst and poke.

Darkdemon653Jun 30, 20171 votes

Have a rune page that contains armor seals and quints
Start with Cloth Armor and 4 potions
I like to have at least three things in lists like these, but all you need is two

Killed InactionJun 30, 20171 votes

Survive the lane, let him deny you some CS so he doesn't kill you, and do your best to make yourself useful until and throughout late-game where he falls off. Be sure to take Teleport so you can follow his ganks (Pantheon almost always takes Ignite). Just keep him from snowballing, don't feed or let him get fed, and hope your team is competent.

sit kidJun 30, 20171 votes

Just survive as much as you can. He's a pain in the ass, but he falls off super hard

PartybringerJun 30, 20171 votes

you play teemo against pantheon?

AwesomeGuyDjJul 1, 20171 votes

No, he's just the first ranged top besides quinn that came to mind.

Bradley DragonJun 30, 20171 votes

start dorans shield and go for hp and armor. if you are ranged you are kinda out of luck. if melle just get tanky, if ap rush a hourglass

might as well swap with mid if you are a adc/apc top vs panth

Maddened King Jul 1, 20171 votes

1 point of Fearless and 1 point on Siegemaster. 9 Armour Seals and 1 Armour Quint (Optional). Buy item 2033 item 3340 , your goal in lane is to farm 400g-700g. You should be able to do it with the build I stated above unless you are a monkey. After that, recall and buy item 1054 and item 1029 (If you get 700g). TP back to lane and it should be much easier to farm. Now you need to pay attention to when he recalls. Try to match it and save up money for a item 3047 . Once you do that, and have go your normal build and the lane is basically over. If he didn't get a kill, you win lane.

AwesomeGuyDjJul 1, 20171 votes

I actually forgot siege master existed entirely. Its almost always tough skin or explorer.

ReySolomonJul 1, 20171 votes

Vladimir Chogath Garen and also swain..

item 1029 item 3340 item 2003

item 3082 I had a friend who told me about this it actually works but it's up to you

when the lane phase is done and he hasn't killed you you pretty much won but it would be great if you were to kill him

Vanic998Jul 1, 20171 votes

Riot has already announced a rework. I guess you can ban him until then. I know that's not a genuine counterplay though.

AwesomeGuyDjJul 1, 20171 votes

link?

Vanic998Jul 1, 20171 votes

Here's a link to prove it. Riot hasn't added it to the rework website yet because I think they're just planning a pantheon rework but haven't started yet. Riot has actually said that they would rework pantheon before this link but I couldn't find it. In the post I'm talking about, riot acknowledged that pantheon was too straightforward.

AwesomeGuyDjJul 1, 20171 votes

Ah, he's tier 1 candidate for a rework.

No flash no lifeJul 1, 20171 votes

I'd vote Rumble . Shield the spear, poke him back with flame and harpoon, he draws minion aggo if he goes all in whereas you don't, and unlike him you don't use resources.

I also think Trundle works fine too. Your passive will sustain through his poke, farm till 6, then he can't get close unless he wants a pillar blocking his retreat path and a troll taking away his ad hp armor mr wrecking him.

nachocheeseeeeeJul 1, 20171 votes

it's really a skill match up and as someone who used to play Pantheon religiously, I'd say Trundle loses lane hard especially now with item 3123 , which is only an 800 gold buy. Pantheon's passive makes a big difference in trading against auto attack reliant champs like Trundle. He can literally block two autos from Trundle plus stun him briefly, which is pretty significant in the early game. Not to mention, if Pantheon rushes Black Cleaver plus Executioner, Trundle will not win the trade. The most he can do is wait for ganks if he is going to trade.