Is Brand ult supposed to fizzle when it hits Fiora's Riposte?

Haestro··71 votes·3,994 views

They recently made a change to Brand where zhonyas and spellshields would stop the damage of his ult, but it would continue bouncing. I noticed that Fiora W stops the bouncing altogether and I was wondering if that was a bug.

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Nahui28 votes

Not a bug, she parries it, deleting it from existence.

LegacyDAP24 votes

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.

aaronautumn10 votes

but an iron sword disintegrates flames.

Cindikle14 votes

It's cold steel. Like her heart.

gubigubi3 votes

I thought it was blue steel l2 lore.

Cindikle1 votes

I feel safer not trusting lore that is over a year old.

gubigubi1 votes

This lore isn't live yet its on the PBE that I am talking about.

Yosuke Apperu19 votes

Considering she parries every single ability in the game (including ignite, exhaust, vlad/zed death marks) I'd say it's intended lol

For Carthage6 votes

Sivir's also stops exhaust, ignite, death mark, etc. Fiora's riposte actually is classified precisely as Sivir's is - a spellshield, but that it also blocks the damage as well.

XeroKimo3 votes

O.o Last time I checked, Sivir can't block any summoner spells, her spell shield would work like a banshee's veil, blocks the first spell (summoner spells not included) hits, if she gets hit with 2 or more spells near simultaneously, the spell shield would block it all

For Carthage3 votes

She's done it. I've had it happen. It's pretty infuriating when it happens, too.

She can also actually block multiple spells at once if they all hit at the same time, and that's something to watch. Timing's pretty precise on that, though.

XeroKimo3 votes

I'm definitely sure sivir's spell shield can't block summoner spells, it's possible to have cleanse or QSS to remove summoner spells, but I know for a fact that sivir's spell shield works like nocturn's and banshee's veil, they only block actual spells

For Carthage1 votes

Don't know what to tell you. I've seen it block summoner spells multiple times.

It is called a spellshield for a reason after all.

WarlockLaw1 votes

I speak from experience it can, it's just not something people spell shield for. I've had Sivir's spell shield my exhaust before becomes I cast it right before my cc and she tried to spell shield my cc and got my exhaust instead

Tac0Destroyer1 votes

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Considering she parries every single ability in the game (including ignite, exhaust, vlad/zed death marks) I'd say it's intended lol

Played against an enemy Karthus, and just laughed at his ult.

Sakura Mirage9 votes

Probably intended.

Auryiel7 votes

Same as Yasuo's windwall, the spell is deleted

DuskTheViking1 votes

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Same as Yasuo's windwall, the spell is deleted

makes sense

DeBigMoist3 votes

Yeah as a brand main in teamfights that is really annoying

stabby himiko1 votes

brand main? High five!

HopFrogger2 votes

This is actually a good question. Upvote for you! I could see both arguments holding true here.

Kaelnor2 votes

Fiora's W stops anything altogether, so yeah it's intended.

Budupops2 votes

working as intentded, according to certainly t

ZzEslIolZQ2 votes

Nothing stops the rework powercreep.

Yasuo and Braum's walls weren't cancer enough.

Madra1 votes

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Nothing stops the rework powercreep.

Yasuo and Braum's walls weren't cancer enough.

Fiora's Riposte is easier to play around and is more geared towards 1v1 encounters. Yasuo's wall is more matchup dependent but has huge utility in a team fight. Ditto for Braum.

OperationDEEZ12 votes

Ripost stops everything. EVERYTHING.

warpenguin5552 votes

imo it should bounce off but give fiora the stuff for blocking it

iainB852 votes

Why do you think Fiora is permanently banned across all ELO?

Riot just throws in an ability like that clearly not even considering the impact it has.

The Sword Saint1 votes

It makes sense if brand ult is coded as a debuff that does damage and launches a new bouncing fireball.

For Carthage1 votes

Brand's ult is spotty right now. I've had it fizzle plenty of times when it shouldn't - in theory, it's supposed to continue towards another target rather than "bounce", so if somebody else is in range, it's supposed to randomly pick and choose who the next victim is. It hasn't, however, with a Zhonya's consistently resulting in the spell fizzling when plenty of secondary targets are within casting range.

Old Man Teeto1 votes

New Mechanic's trump old abilities for design concern.

It's how Riot has worked since the dawn of League.

Blainezy1 votes

Pretty sure it's intended. Riposte parries EVERYTHING. Tis no longer once parried. Therefore, she ripostes your flame and makes it vanish, so it's no longer there to bounce anywhere. #balance

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