I for one, welcome our new Dr. Mundo overlords.

Haestro··47 votes·3,706 views

He really does go where he pleases. He also kills who he pleases. In all seriousness, I honestly think people are overlooking just how strong tanks have become while the endless qq about adc is still going on. Has anyone actually bothered looking at how goddamn good some of these tanks are right now (in spite of the GW changes which everyone assumed would gut Mundo)? He's making Yasuo look like a joke champion right now.

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Hemulus18 votes

Wait until people stop bringing 4/5 AD comps so that Mundo can't become immortal by building item 3047 item 3143 item 3742 item 3068 item 3075 item 3083

Also, people are still figuring out how to itemize AD champions. It's a matter of time before they start fitting item 3033 item 3153 into their builds VS Mundo instead of always trying to build 100% crit chance item 3006 item 3031 item 3094 item 3087 item 3072 item 3046 in every game.

Lintu Puck14 votes

don't forget....Lord Dominik sends his Regards.... item 3036

Blue Moon Wolf10 votes

It should say that in the chat when you buy it

Lintu Puck2 votes

one of my pals actually came up with that XD

Wheatloaf6 votes

Too busy looking at all the ways to get 100% crit chance to wonder if they actually should...

Of course, I'm actually a hypocrite because I do the same thing with CDR.

YumaS2Astral6 votes

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Wait until people stop bringing 4/5 AD comps so that Mundo can't become immortal by building item 3047 item 3143 item 3742 item 3068 item 3075 item 3083

Also, people are still figuring out how to itemize AD champions. It's a matter of time before they start fitting item 3033 item 3153 into their builds VS Mundo instead of always trying to build 100% crit chance item 3006 item 3031 item 3094 item 3087 item 3072 item 3046 in every game.

To be honest DrMundo greatly benefits from item 3065 so for him it is way better when he is actually allowed to buy this item.

FistOfSharkiesha2 votes

This. The reason people theorized this would be doom for tanks is because it should have been. The tools for ADCs and AD assassins to thrive are here, people just want to be able to 2 hit squishies more than they want to not be pentakilled by a Rammus, Malphite, Mundo, or Taric.

oinkwentmoo2 votes

Hence Taric outrageous revival in ranked Challenger play.

Melledoneus2 votes

You forget that Riot missed a spot and forgot to remove some bullshit from the game.

Like Fiora.

EndlessSorcerer13 votes

To be fair, most tanky damage dealers make Yasuo look like a joke.

Also, the Grievous Wounds changes actually assume someone buys the bloody item against him.

I have had several teams when I'm playing a tank where none of the damage deals are willing to pick up Mortal Reminder or Morellonomicon when the enemy team has a Dr. Mundo and one/two other tanks. They didn't bother getting Lord Dominik's Regards either, which was quite sad.

Plus many teams just pick 4 AD champions and act surprised when they can't kill the enemy tanks. It's really quite sad, but that is solo-queue.

Transgressor1 votes

I won't pick Grevious Wounds when the rest of my team is useless. I'll keep my gold for items that are of greater use to me. If you want GW, you should've thought about it before you turned the game into a 2vs8.

EndlessSorcerer7 votes

I'm not sure how you typically build tanks, but I can assure you that neither Morellonomicon nor Executioner's Calling are priority purchases on Rammus.

Considering that I mentioned Mortal Reminder would be a good second or third purchase against their team before our team left the fountain and a couple times afterwards...

Besides, the enemy team had multiple champions stacking armor,one of whom had a significant amount of regeneration. I don't see how Mortal Reminder (which provides bonus armor penetration and Grievous Wounds) would be a waste of gold in that situation.

Transgressor1 votes

I can hear the sound of you missing my point. Woooooosh it makes, while flying over your head.

That Murphys Law3 votes

I think you're just hearing his point pass over yours.

Transgressor1 votes

You'd know I guess, you seem an expert at point-missing.

Melledoneus2 votes

Get a hold of yourself, man!

Or rather, an Ironhold if yourself.

Thug lyfe

Transgressor1 votes

I'd make a joke about strong grip induced by chronic masturbation, but I'm better than that...

Kappa

Melledoneus1 votes

You don't have any redeeming qualities, do you?

Transgressor1 votes

Do I seem like a person who gives a fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Melledoneus1 votes

I suppose that's a no.

kasfas2 votes

Btw full true tanks got needed in the preseason, the reason Mundo is doing well is cuz he's a juggernaut, and no one counter builds him. If adcs counter built tanks and juggernauts ( different classes of champions ) then they would be weaker. Mundo would be fair and TANKS would be seen less often unless they build dmg.

Will not deny the fact that I'm loving playing sion right now though. NOONE COUNETBUILDS; I literally get Fh, Mercs, steraks, mallet, titanic and visage and wreck everyone.

doombotMECHA1 votes

esp. because ppl don't realize that mundo is himself a carry--the one and only carry tank! you have to stomp him early, you have to counterbuild him late, just like a lategame ekko or jinx, because otherwise you're all gonna die! also gotta try my juggervana and jugger'sai builds out...see where they go.

Crett4 votes

no... NO!!!! When the tank meta came back... I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE BECAUSE THEY DID A BUNCH OF DAMAGE!!! I just want INVINCiBLE TANKS

is that so much to ask for?!??????!!!?????????????????????????????????

Ralanr2 votes

I have loved playing Sion so far.

DirkTarTar1 votes

Rushing that item 3110 and then laughing as everyone else is just building crit while your health scales into retarded land.

Sion is my favorite tank :) sad his shout deals so much less damage than before :(

Ralanr2 votes

He used to deal more damage? I've gotten at least three kills by launching minions at people! I'm still not sure what to rush half the time. I mostly go for item 3071 first.

EndlessSorcerer8 votes

Sion Jungle or Top Zilean Support Malzahar Mid Tristana ADC

Zilean places a bomb on a minion, Tristana places her explosive on it, and Malzahar E's it, and Sion punts it into the enemy team.

charcharmunro3 votes

The Shouty AIDS Bomb combo? I like it.

DirkTarTar3 votes

Awesome! Always a fan of cruise missile comps

Celeste Benal1 votes

TahmKench: "Thassa spicy meat-a-ball!"

Meep Man1 votes

You forgot Tristana ADC

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Oh right, she can do that now.

Fixed.

DirkTarTar3 votes

He used to deal SOOOO much damage and his E was on such a low cd with low mana cost... you could basically push someone out of lane by launching minions at them lmao

charcharmunro1 votes

Black Cleaver I often find a bit wasted on Sion. He doesn't hit frequently enough to really use it compared to, say, Garen. I personally go for Frozen Mallet or Maw of Malmortius if I need damage.

Ralanr1 votes

I usually get it for the CDR. Capping CDR makes his ult a 36 second cooldown at max rank. It's probably just a habit of mine, I like CDR on a lot of my champions as I tend to use abilities a lot.

A Miss Fortune2 votes

I think with the nerfs to item 3036 item 3035 Mundo got a pretty big buff along with all other tanks. The items aren't that great anymore unless they're buying 2 - 3 Armor items. Mundo can get away with just buying things like Warmogs over Thornmail against an AD comp though since he does well with health and regen.

KONO RUBICK DA9 votes

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I think with the nerfs to item 3036 item 3035 Mundo got a pretty big buff along with all other tanks. The items aren't that great anymore unless they're buying 2 - 3 Armor items. Mundo can get away with just buying things like Warmogs over Thornmail against an AD comp though since he does well with health and regen.

mundo got nothing, it's just the community who is retarded. i'm pretty sure you realised that everyone is playing AD every GAMES right now. Instead try to play brand with liandry.

ADC don't even build BRK or mortal reminder, this is sad they just rush IE into PD like before. I have seen some lucian building death's dance instead of going BRK which synergise well with his passive

Melledoneus1 votes

AD is one thing. Then there's whatever the f*ck Fiora is.

Transgressor2 votes
  1. Not all tanks are strong
  2. When the popularity of squishy ADCs(both range and melee)rises to disgusting levels, so will the popularity of their natural counters
  3. The whole game is a cancerous ball of snowballing mess with 100%crit-chance and no counterplay
  4. Those tanks you call strong, are also the most basic of their class; they require no real skill or mechanics to do well, just don't die and farm.
Gregor Gysi6 votes

'no counterplay' Just stop that BS, ok?

List of good tanks/Juggs:

  • Amumu
  • Sejuani
  • Malphite
  • Dr. Mundo
  • Tahm'Kench
  • Garen
  • susaN
  • Nautilus
  • Shen
  • Zac
  • Sion
  • list goes on, I am lazy
  • not even counting the bruiseresque champions

This patch is AWESOME for those who play tanks. Yes, ADC's are incredibly strong. But both teams have ADC's. Seeing how assassins suck atm (take a look at their winrates/avg. games played, they hit the GROUND as in 40-45%) because they can't assassinate the ADC overlords you gotta play tanks who are either able to peel for their own ADC to make him/her even stronger or CC the other ADC. Even though it may be counterintuitive, this is probably the best patch for tank players since the best times of Cinderhulk. And yes, I am not kidding. Numbers prove my point.

Transgressor1 votes

I literally see nothing wrong with your post, it just re-enforces my point.

Also, that counterplay thingy, yeah there's no counterplay to Yasuo, Tryndamere, 80%crit chance Vayne, Graves, those other fringe cases that abuse the living shit out of items and keystones. That's all that's getting played right now.

However, I do believe this is not an awesome patch for tanks based on game health. It's simply because what they are built to counter has disgustingly risen in popularity. At the best times of Cinderhulk however(after it got nerfed), it truly was a great time to play the game, it was the most healthy it had been the entire season. That's personal opinion though, and you don't have to like it.

Playing tanks right now feels like a weapon manufacturer during a war. Profits go up because of demand, not because someone wanted an update to their national arsenal. Lastly, you can't deny the tanks with the best winrates are the most mechanically simplistic, I've seen the numbers myself.

Gregor Gysi1 votes

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Also, that counterplay thingy, yeah there's no counterplay to Yasuo, Tryndamere, 80%crit chance Vayne, Graves, those other fringe cases that abuse the living shit out of items and keystones. That's all that's getting played right now.

Summary: there is no counterplay to the critmonsters

However, I do believe this is not an awesome patch for tanks based on game health. It's simply because what they are built to counter has disgustingly risen in popularity.

Summary: tanks see play because they counter the critmonsters

... ... ...

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I literally see nothing wrong with your post, it just re-enforces my point.

Then take a look again. If you can't see what's wrong with saying that tanks only see play because they counter the critmonsters and at the same time stating that there is no counter to the critmonsters.. Ugh. I can't help you then.

{quoted} At the best times of Cinderhulk however(after it got nerfed), it truly was a great time to play the game, it was the most healthy it had been the entire season. That's personal opinion though, and you don't have to like it.

It was quite boring because tanks were the best for CCing, for tanking damage and for dealing damage. I mean, I like playing Maokai and Gnar, so it wasn't really bad for me. But it got sorta boring after a while. Meta has to shift otherwise it's boring.

{quoted} you can't deny the tanks with the best winrates are the most mechanically simplistic, I've seen the numbers myself.

To be honest.. Tanks in general are mechanically simplistic.. Or do you count Irelia as a tank? But even then, Irelia has a great winrate. No idea which tank is supposed to be mechanically demanding, so I can't really prove you wrong..

thumbnail92 votes

What other tank has a mass healing ult that is buffed to fuck by masteries?

EndlessSorcerer6 votes

Techinically a fighter/tan but Trundle does.

Meep Man1 votes

Volibear Passive (not ult but still)? Nasus Renekton ?

LordBrasca1 votes

Seeing a lot of these posts in these days regarding how much strong is mundo but i really don't understand tbh, how can he be so strong? I mean greavious wound now is a lot easier to get and if you buy that 800 gold item it's gg... or am i missing something? Just asking because i never played with/against mundo in these days and i have no idea of what you guys are talking about :)

Dehitay4 votes

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Seeing a lot of these posts in these days regarding how much strong is mundo but i really don't understand tbh, how can he be so strong? I mean greavious wound now is a lot easier to get and if you buy that 800 gold item it's gg... or am i missing something? Just asking because i never played with/against mundo in these days and i have no idea of what you guys are talking about :)

His E did get a buff with the last patch that gives him a deal more burst now. It does bonus damage on the first hit after you use it that scales on health. So now you have a Q to slow and E to hit combo that proves a stronger trade off than his previous cleaver spam.

However, even though he does more damage now, the main issue is what everybody is saying. People just don't build against him. Most players are just too selfish and only choose high damage champs and build high damage on them instead of picking for team composition and building for the enemy composition. Grevious wounds now has more sources than before so his ult can be stopped far more often. Mundo's strongest power is enemy stupidity

Melledoneus1 votes

You basically build full HP tank, Titanic Hydra, and your E deletes squishies.

chide da jungler1 votes

You say tanks, but you mean only mundo

ChaosThief3 votes

Rammus Malphite ok

Taric gems~

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