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Karma's stripped of even more mechanics. RITO pl0x

Sheldons·7/26/2016, 8:41:52 AM·29 votes·1,770 views

Does anyone even pl0x anymore? haha XD

With the recent patch notes, you wont be able to shield minions any longer. But can we STILLLL please target them? like what does with pix?

Shielding a minion to deny the enemy gold is frustrating and toxic for the enemy. Totally. And i felt like old gp when i saw the enemy miss cs cuz of me. But shielding a minion with karma is also used in other ways, like for the utility.

She would be able to aoe shield while rushing to allies by clicking on any minions in the allies range. It was also used to speed up the front minion to tank tower aggro faster and start taking the tower down.

I get it, sometimes karma players accidentally shield a minion when meaning to target ally. What about making champions hitboxes larger for allies?? Whats next? wont be able to cast shield on tower because she cant target her ally next to it?? (dear god so help me if that happens) The way to get around this is to press e as you were to cast and click the allies portrait above the minimap. (RITO plz let us move the portraits around)

These are integral parts of Karma, and taking this away really messes with some karma players.

This is what little Uniqueness she had left, after all the mechanic changes/removals she has had in the past.

Speaking of Karma, when will she be able to attack with her fans again?

51 Comments

Lady Hammerlock7/26/2016, 9:26:10 AM13 votes

As if Karma wasn't bland enough they gave her a 6.15 to the knee

Pika Fox7/26/2016, 3:13:56 PM4 votes

Yeah, no. Its never a good idea to let a non-aoe shield/heal target minions.

Its annoying to face against as an enemy, especially when behind, especially against an aggressive support who is already going to be pushing you out of lane anyway. You need to be able to have a safe option to CS.
Losing lane because you shielded a minion instead of your ADC will always be bad. Its the same reason they removed ignite from being able to be used on minions/monsters; sure, you could argue some random stars align situation where it would be optimal, but more often than not it would literally cost you the game by causing an accidental use unintended.

My guessing as to why Lulu is an exception is because her spell has an offensive version that targets minions, as well as changes the angle of her Q. Theres legitimate use for it beyond straight denial. Likewise, janna shield on towers isnt comparable either; only 3 towers per lane and theyre fairly large hitboxes that you often arent standing right ontop of, so you arent likely to "accidentally" shield tower over your adc, while you are extremely likely to shield a minion over adc by accident depending on matchup (enemy blitz/thresh/morg where you want to be essentially in your own minion wave if youre not zoned out).

USG Failsawce7/26/2016, 12:38:39 PM3 votes

good, screw that cancerous slut

HaloDragonX7/26/2016, 9:35:52 PM3 votes

Please stop Kayle Syndrome-ing over a nerf

Her teamwide engage was nerfed, deserved really. She can't shield minions and? It's a frustrating tachtic that no one likes to play against, and honestly barely anyone did it. Her winrate fell by 1% and it's only been 1 day, it's not the end of the world.

For those who don't know what Kayle Syndrome is: https://youtu.be/evjn7_tMRd4

Scary Door7/26/2016, 2:23:39 PM2 votes

I love Karma, many people do...

Too bad Riot doesn't and it's obvious.

UnbeatablePlayer7/26/2016, 7:16:43 PM2 votes

Karma has always seemed stupid to me. Her q is stupidly strong for having so much utility and she even heals up for 20% of her missing hp, so if you were thinking about winning a trade vs her, think again. As soon as she gets ahead by anything one q can chunk half your hp, and the root is just to make sure you can get hit by another deadly q.

Yaśuo Main7/26/2016, 12:37:34 PM2 votes

wow i thought i was the only person who uses pl0x!!1!!1!

The Yetii Rider7/26/2016, 2:08:18 PM2 votes

Said this in a previous thread, but here we go again.

In 6.9, Riot made several changes to mid lane champions to reduce the amount of wave clear in the game. Because of this, along with Zed's massive drop in play rate, you cannot expect pro players to kill every minion out of a wave instantly, and that's what Riot wants.

However, because you can't instantly wave clear, the counterplay to Karma's Defiance disappears. Currently, the ability can't be used if the enemy team is using long range AOE abilities to prevent you from bunching up. The enemy team should be rewarded for doing this against Karma. But if she can target minions they don't NEED to be bunched up to go in.

These nerfs were targeted at pro play Karma specifically to reduce her play rate before World's. The ability to shield your entire team with a minion reduces counterplay against the ability, and is not healthy at the pro level.

DiamondLeonis7/26/2016, 10:06:38 PM1 votes

They are trying to make every champion in the game like Annie , with no real mechanics XD

Weasel Kensei7/26/2016, 5:23:18 PM1 votes

Why bother, Rito balance team is just throwing darts. Other champs see constant abuse in LCS, but when its Karma time to nerf a 49% win rate champ...

Oh Sonas got a 53% win rate................................................ Buff her to the #1 win rate in the game...... RITO BALANCE TEAM BITCHES!!!

Like they clearly showed the have very little clue what theyre doing with stuff like how they handled Graves, and the pointless buffing of Xin into the number one win % earlier this season...

Just throwing darts man, just throwing darts.

Qiy4na7/26/2016, 6:03:12 PM1 votes

karma won't ever be able to use fans again item 3070

LatetotheRace7/26/2016, 6:52:55 PM1 votes

Ranked = casual. Jungling = casual. New players = casual.

Mechanics =/= casual. This is riot's mindset right now and it's hilariously retarded.

LadyRenly7/26/2016, 9:52:05 PM1 votes

people froth at the mouth over viktor one shotting waves, but karma shielding minions is an issue?