Cass is Eating People. To many champs to ban atm.

Heavenly Shield··3 votes·1,192 views

There are some real Staple bans right now. Some of them are very necessary.

Cass - She is out of control. 500 Stacks + Death Cap = 60% Bonus Ap. Rod of Ages + Rylias = Very tanky and still have ridiculousness damage out put (most builds include a Tears as well, even harder to kill). Even if you some how catch this champ out late game there is no way you are taking her out with her A. Taking 90% of your teams health B. Her at least grabbing one kill (at least one kill) (Personally I played Cass for the first time in for ever. I had tears fully stacked at 15mins, and my ages shortly after, I was unkillable and carried a team single handedly) It's not even the fact that she is a hyper carry it's the fact that she has crazy damage through out the game. Early - Mid - Late. ( E Reset(.5cd) To Strong )

Fizz and Akali, Have become auto bans. Rek'Sai - New champ, no work done yet, very strong right now. J4 - Another auto ban, even if behind Ful tank, with a kit like his is real strong all through out the game. ^These are just the champs I'm going to bag on, there are a couple others, but these are the ones I'm seeing the most and that i feel are nessecary^

Those are very common bans, at my level of play at least, Plat 1 - Diamond 4. The champ diversity is very poor right now. Extra Ban or some balance?

This is my out take on things atm. Whether you agree or not, thanks for the read, Feel free to comment for some debates or if I have misspoken on an area.

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Heavenly Shield2 votes

In this post I named 6 champs, 3 of which are literally banned every game. The other 3 are right behind them with a high ban rate in my mind. Being forced to ban these champs is a pain. I understand there will always be "better" champs, but maybe one more ban and some balanced could open up a big change in champs.

Idk the full story on taking out Dfg, but doing so will make cass more meta, making it hard for more mid lane Ap assassinie champs to take her out, before she scales to god status.

Khell DarkWolf1 votes

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In this post I named 6 champs, 3 of which are literally banned every game. The other 3 are right behind them with a high ban rate in my mind. Being forced to ban these champs is a pain. I understand there will always be "better" champs, but maybe one more ban and some balanced could open up a big change in champs.

Idk the full story on taking out Dfg, but doing so will make cass more meta, making it hard for more mid lane Ap assassinie champs to take her out, before she scales to god status.

Cass is not God status.

She already has so many counters, the problem I see is that people haven't played against a Cass player in so long that they forgot how to deal with them (like AP Sion in the day).

Xerath Xerath outranges and pokes her to death.

Syndra Syndra can harass and play safe because just one orb stun will chunk her out that she has to be careful of being greedy to stay in lane if she gets caught out again.

Ziggs Ziggs and Ahri Ahri still have a decent enough wave clear that can push in Cass to her tower to force her to burn alot more mana to farm.

and then Azir Azir, have you seen the zonage a good Azir can do to you as a Cass player? its unreal.

Then the Zilean Zilean Cheese. Double time bombs on you or on your caster minions as you approach the wave is just annoying to try and farm let alone harass.

Skylimetoon2 votes

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Cass is not God status.

She already has so many counters, the problem I see is that people haven't played against a Cass player in so long that they forgot how to deal with them (like AP Sion in the day).

Xerath Xerath outranges and pokes her to death.

Syndra Syndra can harass and play safe because just one orb stun will chunk her out that she has to be careful of being greedy to stay in lane if she gets caught out again.

Ziggs Ziggs and Ahri Ahri still have a decent enough wave clear that can push in Cass to her tower to force her to burn alot more mana to farm.

and then Azir Azir, have you seen the zonage a good Azir can do to you as a Cass player? its unreal.

Then the Zilean Zilean Cheese. Double time bombs on you or on your caster minions as you approach the wave is just annoying to try and farm let alone harass.

your whole idea is that outranging her is the counterplay. i just played a cass vs xerath. it was very difficult to get near him and do any damage while he could poke all day. i got around it because eventually he had to come out to play bt it was still hard as hell.

Heavenly Shield1 votes

Good input. Pushing on her I don't see as a threat considering she gets catalyst,tears, and wants to farm up. The range could be a problem, it's the fact that she has been going top lane.

Cass Top Ad Assassin mid Tank Jungle

Win^

DatPikachuTho1 votes

Those are also just her midlane match-ups. She's been seeing a lot of play and doing very well in the top lane, where it's a little safer for her to farm with all the melee bruisers and tanks that populate top lane.

Drunk Rummate2 votes

If you dodge the Q + W then she does negative damage and gets no sustain. Pay attention and dodge skill shots. Stop complaining ffs.

Heavenly Shield1 votes

Imo, that's is a very low level of thinking. It is common sense that when her Q + W are down she is open to trade with... Just like pretty much any caster laner? Your also assuming she is bad and will blow her Q + W at the same time for some reason leaving her self open to ganks and trades and having no mobility from her Q and Slow from her W. Good input though. Not to mention she more focused to gain stacks off minions.

Moulin Rouge1 votes

I wonder how Orianna does against her. No doubt mana would be an issue with Ori though...

Heavenly Shield1 votes

Seems like a skill match up. They both have mobility to chase each and do trades in lane, I also believe ori has maybe a little range on cass, but not much, if any.

Idk, I almsot wanna say ori, just cause she does her burst damage from a safe distance. Lux is my bb, she is a good pick on cass!

Chortle1 votes

Sejuani Jungle counters her. Just camp her and snowball your mid/top

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